At 04:40  15/8/00 -0400, you wrote:
>- There are currently 3 major operational versions of avalon.  avalon2.1-dev
>(the distribution on their web site), 2.2 (which james uses), and the latest
>CVS sources which have now removed the Component Manager (or are working
>towards this) to be replaced with JNDI.
>- There also appears to be some migration towards org.apache.java of objects
>that used to be part of other sub projects (like avalon).  This has made the
>proper contents of the org.apache.java namespace a little fuzzy to me.  Also
>there have been class name changes (SimpleContext->DefaultContext) that are
>yet to be fixed throughout the code base.
>- Some sub projects are still in transition towards tomcat (Servlet 2.2 API)
>leaving a few uncomfortable dependencies.  Also the competing XML
>implementations just confuses me.
>
>I think a unified build of the majority of the java.apache projects together
>is achievable in the near term.  Please let me know if you are working on
>this.  I'll put it all up on a webpage if there is interest.

while I agree with you in idea I think that doing it will be more hassle
than worth. Avalon is going through some major changes atm and will
continue to do so for at least 3-4 months (just a guestimate). It would be
unwise to force others to travel the same road Avalon does - right now we
are backtracking stuff (or will be shortly in future) in Avalon and then we
would force other projects to do same.

I like the idea of keeping JAMES at an old trusted version of Avalon - thou
I would like the source to that Avalon to be made available aswell. This
allows people to use JAMES without fear we will introduce problems. We
could branch here and update JAMES to use current Avalon tech (I have a
copy on my harddsk that doesn just that) but we still want to be able to
fix old bugs in tree. At least until Avalon settles and thus we could
release a JAMES/Avalon pair simultaneously.

Cheers,

Pete

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