I think for janay it should be jaa ne which I have seen translated as "see you 
later". Jaa is even more casual, seems to mean "see ya"


Donna
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ai3131 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:09 PM
  Subject: [Japanese_Language] Re: Saying goodbye in Japanese


  --- In [email protected], "marccolbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >
  > Does anyone know the proper spelling for the following words
  > 
  > Siyanora

  In the "hyôjun-go", this would be spelled "sayonara". 
  Perhaps "shiyanora" is a word from a Japanese dialect, perhaps a 
  Kansai or Chûgoku variant?

  > Matanay

  This would be spelled "mata ne". This would mean something 
  like "hope I see you again".

  > Janay

  This is written "ja nai". It is used in familiar speech as a 
  negative form of the copula "desu", often employed to say that "A = 
  B" or similar things.

  > 
  > Thanks very much!  It's tough to use the Japanese dictionaries if 
  you 
  > don't even know the proper spellings.
  > 
  > Marc>

  Most dictionaries use the Hepburn system of spelling. Consonants 
  have the same sounds as in English, but the vowels are patterned 
  after Italian, since in Japanese all vowels are "pure". That is, 
  unlike in English, they do not decline. Think of the vowels in 
  Spanish. Japanese has an almost ideltical system of vowels. The 
  black sheep of the bunch would be the "short u", which sometimes 
  sounds like the U in French.

  I would not worry about spelling. Whether you use the Hepburn or 
  newer "Kunrei-shiki" system of transcription for Japanese, 
  everything is read as written -- no irregularities. Since Japanese 
  is primarily a spoken language, listening to Japanese conversation 
  as much as possible can help you to improve and know just how to 
  write a word in Japanese with letters. Of special importance are 
  double consonants and cases when the letter N is at the end of a 
  word and right after it comes a vowel letter. These will give you a 
  hard time at first. However, with constant practice, they can be 
  mastered.

  In any case, go for it.

  - Arian I.







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