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JSP sucks - sorry, it does.  

I'm considering moving all my page rendering needs to
FreeMarker.  Code and HTML are like water and oil, they
do not and should not be mixed.

-Freeman

-----Original Message-----
From: jon * [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 4:55 PM
To: Java Apache Users
Subject: [offtopic] Re: JServ & Java 2
on 4/17/00 4:01 PM, Duane M. Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I happen to agree, but others using the system are making a bit of noise
> for JSP support.  It really is a bear to setup, but JServ itself has been
> very smooth for me.  I have been using Java 1.2 on Solaris for about 7
> months with no problems inherent to 1.2.
> 
> Duane

I find this whole JSP noise thing quite silly. There is so much proof[1-5]
out there that says that it sucks yet no one will listen because it is Sun
Marketing that is saying that it is a good thing. People thought that
Applets were going to save the world because of Sun Marketing.

I can easily guess what would happen if Sun Marketing told everyone to go
jump off a bridge.

:-)

[1] <http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp.html>
[2] <http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp-reaction.html>
[3] It isn't MVC. It only allows you to do MVC and most of the time people
ignore that fact.
[4] It was created by Sun as a response to ASP. Two wrongs don't make a
right.
[5] It was created by people who don't do web applications on a daily basis.

-jon

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