PS Neville wrote:
>
> > Ship, Howard wrote: <SNIP>
> >
> Suggestion: Another place to look at excellent approaches to these goals is
> http://xml.apache.org, where even app servers themselves are merely XML docs
> waiting to be properly transformed. ;>
There's more.
Jon, Kevin and I sat down at ApacheCON to find ways to seemlessly
integrate Turbine (web application development) with Cocoon (XML web
publishing) to create "publish-able XML web applications".
Today, you can call Cocoon from inside Turbine or you can call Turbine
from inside Cocoon. But this is no real integration.
To me, Avalon seems the right way for integration.... but that would
take time since it would require also Tomcat to be ported under the
avalon framework...
... anyway, it's a long story and we are just starting, but don't
consider the xml.apache projects and the java.apache projects fighting
or overlapping: if they do, there is a good reason... but convergence is
_always_ our goal.
And should be also for new proposals.
If there is even a partial overlap between projects that are asked to be
accepted as contribution, there is no chance this project will be
accepted as a whole, but rather the goals should be "merging" with what
is already existing.
Look at Sun's donation to xml.apache or their xml parsing technology: we
are not going to have two xml parsers, but take the good out of both
projects (projextX and Xerces) and make a better one.
This should be the ultimate goal for every overlapping project.
Hard, you say? You bet. Never said it wasn't. But it would remove
problems with friction and project fragmentation later on.
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Friedrich Nietzsche
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