The wiki site has now changed to http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/RealtimeSearch which only has the realtime search documentation. The other components that may be a fit for SOLR are listed at http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/OceanComponents
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Jason Rutherglen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The wiki has been updated to reflect the addition of the RDMBS > comparison, the removal of references to GData. > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Otis Gospodnetic > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think it's a lot simpler to just say "look how RDBMS does it - you insert >> and can immediately select what you just added without incurring any kind of >> extra cost" and that's it. Seems plenty clear and less confusing, I think. >> >> Otis >> -- >> Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Jason Rutherglen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org >>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:23:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: Ocean and GData >>> >>> I thought it would be best to point to something out there. However >>> it is true that the comparison is apples to oranges. Are you >>> suggesting removing the references to GData and GBase? I don't mind, >>> I thought it would help to show people that realtime is in widespread >>> usage somewhere. >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Otis Gospodnetic >>> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > Maybe it's just terminology, but to me GData is like RMI - something that >>> facilitates transport. If Google had a system that's not real-time (i.e. >>> you >>> add something and you can't get it to show up in search results immediately) >>> they could still be using GData with that system for indexing, querying, >>> etc. >>> > >>> > To me brining GData and GBase in the picture confuses things. You could >>> > also >>> compare the real-time Lucene/Solr search goal to "like any normal RDBMS - >>> you >>> INSERT X and you can SELECT X immediately". Maybe the desire to compare >>> with G* >>> is because it's Google's and is known for search? >>> > >>> > >>> > Otis -- >>> > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ---- >>> >> From: Jason Rutherglen >>> >> To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org >>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:03:50 AM >>> >> Subject: Re: Ocean and GData >>> >> >>> >> Hello Otis, >>> >> >>> >> GData and GBase to me sounds like they are short for Google Database. >>> >> The goal with Ocean is to provide a Lucene based search database that >>> >> provides out of the box functionality like the Google Data/Base >>> >> offers. Unlike MapReduce, there are no infrastructure whitepapers on >>> >> how GData/Base works so I had to make a broad comparison rather than a >>> >> specific one. Realtime seems like a feature a search database should >>> >> have to qualify as such and so GData is mentioned as the only known >>> >> realtime solution (other than Twitter's Summize with I found out about >>> >> later). The service Google provides through the GData protocol seems >>> >> to also be referred to as GData, but could simply be called the >>> >> "infrastructure supporting Google's realtime search web services". >>> >> >>> >> Jason >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Otis Gospodnetic >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Hi, >>> >> > >>> >> > Here is one thing that's been confusing me. >>> >> http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/OceanRealtimeSearch?highlight=(GData) >>> often >>> >> mentions GData and relates it to real-time search (to Ocean), as if it is >>> GData >>> >> that provides real-time search functionality. But isn't GData simply a >>> >> communication protocol (Atom with some custom additions by Google)? If >>> >> so, >>> are >>> >> statements like "Ocean addresses this by providing the same >>> >> functionality as >>> >> GData open sourced for use in any project" really correct? If GData is >>> >> just >>> a >>> >> communication protocol, and Ocean is really primarily the search engine >>> >> that >>> is >>> >> capable of real-time search, then is it really correct to compare Ocean >>> >> with >>> >> GData? My feeling is that the thinking is: >>> >> > "When I access Google's databases using GData I can see my changes to >>> >> > those >>> >> databases immediately". >>> >> > But that doesn't make GData this real-time thing, but rather the >>> >> > backend, >>> no? >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Please enlighten me if I'm misunderstanding what GData is. 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