: This prompts the question (in my mind anyway): should source releases include 
third-party binary jars?

if i remember correctly, the historical argument has been that this way 
the source release contains everything you need to compile the source.

except that if i remember correctly (and i'm very tired at the moment) 
there are some contribs that won't compile without downloading additional 
jars (bdb?) so really the jars included in the source release artifacts 
just represent the jars that *can* be included in the source release.

Not to dredge up maven/ivy dependencay management arguments -- but even if 
we wanted to be certain we were compiling specific versions, without 
depending on any special dependencay managment system/repo we could just 
have the source releases download the jars from our own site so people who 
don't care about compiling those contribs can get smaller source 
distributions.

...but i doubt it's worth trying to tackle before 2.9.



-Hoss


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