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John Wang commented on LUCENE-1997:
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Mark:

       The point of discussion is memory, unless a few hundred K of memory 
consumption implies a "huge perf drop". (I see you are being conservative and 
using only 1 huge :) )

       Even with 100 segment which I am guessing you agree that it is rare, it 
is 400K, (in this discussion, I am using it as an upper bound, perhaps I should 
state it more explicitly) and thus my inability to understand that being a 
memory concern.

       BTW, I am interested the percentage of "deep paging" you are seeing. You 
argue it is not rare, do you have some concrete numbers? The stats I have seen 
from our production logs and also web search logs when I was working on that, 
the percentage is very very very very very (5 very's) low. (sharp drop usually 
is at page 4, let alone page 100)

-John


> Explore performance of multi-PQ vs single-PQ sorting API
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-1997
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1997
>             Project: Lucene - Java
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Search
>    Affects Versions: 2.9
>            Reporter: Michael McCandless
>            Assignee: Michael McCandless
>         Attachments: LUCENE-1997.patch, LUCENE-1997.patch, LUCENE-1997.patch, 
> LUCENE-1997.patch, LUCENE-1997.patch, LUCENE-1997.patch, LUCENE-1997.patch, 
> LUCENE-1997.patch, LUCENE-1997.patch
>
>
> Spinoff from recent "lucene 2.9 sorting algorithm" thread on java-dev,
> where a simpler (non-segment-based) comparator API is proposed that
> gathers results into multiple PQs (one per segment) and then merges
> them in the end.
> I started from John's multi-PQ code and worked it into
> contrib/benchmark so that we could run perf tests.  Then I generified
> the Python script I use for running search benchmarks (in
> contrib/benchmark/sortBench.py).
> The script first creates indexes with 1M docs (based on
> SortableSingleDocSource, and based on wikipedia, if available).  Then
> it runs various combinations:
>   * Index with 20 balanced segments vs index with the "normal" log
>     segment size
>   * Queries with different numbers of hits (only for wikipedia index)
>   * Different top N
>   * Different sorts (by title, for wikipedia, and by random string,
>     random int, and country for the random index)
> For each test, 7 search rounds are run and the best QPS is kept.  The
> script runs singlePQ then multiPQ, and records the resulting best QPS
> for each and produces table (in Jira format) as output.

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