On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Seth M. Landsman wrote:

> >  We still don't have anything to work with though, or even
> > acknoledgement that someone who is dealing with the situation has seen
> > my request yet. If this was a truly open source project, we'd have
> > already gotten to the code and fixed it by now :). Instead, we have to
> > wait for someone to give us some code to work with, prefereably without
> > having anything proprietary to Sun so we can all chip in.
> 
>       This is something which is covered time and time again on this
> list.
> 
>       a. This is not a true open source project.  The JDK source code is
> not free nor open source.  If you want to find an open source JDK,
> checkout www.classpath.org which is far from being finished, but is free
> and open.
>       b. The porters of the JDK are under a very strict licensing
> agreement which prevents them from releasing any source at any time or
> even releasing a binary until it passed the a strict set of tests called
> the JCK.
>       c. The porters read this list, but, methinks, have stopped
> acknowledging the "can I help, even though I haven't read the FAQ", "When
> will this be read already?" and "You guys suck because you aren't
> releasing it under the GPL" questions.  They are asked and answered far
> too often.

I think your comments might be a little too harsh. I think the offer to
help was an offer for help with the linux threading problems and not any
JDK porting issues. I am just a lurker, but I think such offers should
not be met with the flames meant for those silly folks that ask
"when with the 1.2 port be done".

mo dejong
dejong at cs.umn.edu

>       So the answer is, you can help, but you need to get a
> non-commercial license from Sun.  This is not open source and never will
> be.  Binaries will be released when they are ready and not before.  Asking
> will not speed it up.
> 
> -Seth (not a member of the porting team, just a lurker)
> 
> --
> "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion"
>

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