Ah, so it was you who was asking the politically barbed question! :)
I enjoyed that.
It seemed that Eileen was just hyping up performance on 1.3 in
general - she just as easily could have been talking about 1.3 on Solaris.
Also, the fact that they weren't using the JIT with 1.2.2 when comparing
benchmarks with 1.3 + Hotspot was a bit silly.
All in all, it was nice to see stronger support from Sun for Linux.
Adam Ambrose
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Nelson Minar wrote:
> Just got back from the first day of JavaOne. I'm happy to say that Sun
> sounds like they're fairly serious about Linux support. Lots of Linux
> visibility at the conference, several talks and BOFs. The biggest news
> I heard is that Java 1.4 ("Merlin") should be released simultaneously
> on Windows, Solaris, and Linux. Yay! Pretty much all the standard J2SE
> and J2EE stuff should be coming out for Linux, including Hotspot
> (client & server), Java plug-in, etc.
>
> The session name was BUS-1698, you may be able to find notes on the
> JavaOne site at http://java.sun.com/javaone, or at
>
>http://jsp.java.sun.com/javaone/javaone2000/event.jsp?eventId=1698&trackId=1&eventType=BUS&ts=960339101588
>
> Blake Connell, Calvin Austin, and Eileen Yang all spoke for awhile.
> Blake is a product line manager, Calvin is the lead Linux port
> engineer, and Eileen works on performance. (Hong Zhang was also on the
> panel, he does Hotspot work).
>
> Some technical tidbits:
>
> J2EE 1.2.1 is also available for Linux
> October 2000 should be the final J2SE 1.3 release.
> Fourth quarter 2001 should be J2SE 1.4 release (simultaneous).
> Linux 1.3 should include everything that's in the Solaris version.
> Hotspot both server & client, I believe native threads too.
> Sound API is currently OSS, they may move to ALSA.
> 1.4 should be better at Java2D, SMP, and Hotspot.
> They're interested in better Linux desktop support. Motif gives them
> trouble with non-Motif window managers. They test KDE + KWM mostly,
> but want to support everything.
> Dual monitor support is forthcoming
> There's a AWT on GTK port on the SCSL site, but they don't intend to
> do anything with it.
> Java 3D API is forthcoming from Blackdown.
> Performance is getting better, 1000% IO improvement in 1.3! Faster Swing, too.
> No specific plans for embedded Linux support.
> No plans to do SVGA or framebuffer versions of AWT.
> x86 releases only for now.
> A FreeBSD port is in the works! Not official yet.
>
>
> Political tidbits:
>
> Caldera is a Java source licensee and is doing their own ports.
> Mandrake will distributed Java with next release.
> Sun is working with LinuxCare for support on portability, optimization.
> They have no plans to compromise on SCSL to be more GPL friendly.
> Plenty of props and respect paid to Blackdown. An explicit apology
> about the gaffe on Sun's first Java 1.2 release with Inprise. They
> also indicated a continuing relationship with Blackdown,
> particularly for porting optional packages.
> I asked "why did it take so long to support Linux?", the answer I got
> was "limited resources".
> They are listening to people's feedback and bug reports, would like to
> hear more.
>
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