Hiyas. I am just curious to know, is the Java VM supplied with blackdowns package the same as that supplied in Suns package? Cheers, Grant -- Before criticising someone, walk a mile in their shoes. Then when you do criticise them, you will be a mile away and you'll have their shoes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]