I am running the Blackdown JVM on the Familiar 0.4 distribution of linux on the iPAQ. When I place a swing window object at a negative grid location.... window.setLocation(-2,0); window.show(); .......it does not work. If places it at location (0,0). Regards Gerard Briscoe Philips Research Labs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]