Hi Rob,

we use a SearcherManager to obtain a fresh Searcher for every Query. From the Searcher we get the Reader. After the query you call searcherManager.release(searcher). The SearcherManager takes care of the rest.

Regards,

Jürgen.

Am 10.11.2015 um 13:27 schrieb Rob Audenaerde:
Hi Jürgen, Michael

Thanks! I seem to be able to reduce the index size by closing and
restarting our application. This reduces the index size from 22G tot 4G,
with is somewhat the expected size. The infoStream also gives me the
'removed unreferenced file (IFD 0 [2015-11-10T12:21:49.293Z; main]: init:
removing unreferenced file '...)

Now I just need to figure out how to close the IndexReader while keeping
the application running..  I guess I should/could do something with the
openIfChanged. Will look further.

-Rob



On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Jürgen Albert <j.alb...@data-in-motion.biz
wrote:
Hi Rob,

we had a similar problem. In our case we had open index readers, that
blocked the index from merging its segments and thus deleting the marked
segments.

Regards,

Jürgen.


Am 06.11.2015 um 08:59 schrieb Rob Audenaerde:

Hi will, others

Thanks for you reply,

As far as I understand it, deleting a document is just setting the deleted
bit, and when segments are merged, then the documents are removed. (not
really sure what this means exactly; I guess the document gets removed
from
the store, the terms will no longer refer to that document. Not sure if
terms get removed if no longer needed, etc). If there are resources to
read
to improve my understanding I havo not found them (yet), if you could
point
me to some that be great!

I use the default IndexWriterConfig, which I see uses TieredMergePolicy. I
never close my InderWriter; as I use NRT searching I just alwyas keep it
open.

My two guesses are that: a) old segments are not removed from disk or b)
deletes are not cleaned up as well as I though they would be.

I have made a testcase which indexes 5 million rows (five iterations, five
indexing thread, indexing and deleting all such documents after each
iterator with deleteByQuery), the rows randomly generated. I see the
Taxonomy ever growing (which is logical, because facet-ordinals are never
removed as far as I understand); the index grows, but also shrinks when
deleting. So I cannot reproduce my problem easily :(

I will start diving into the Lucene source code, but I was hoping I just
did something wrong. .

Any hints are appreciated!

-Rob


On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:52 PM, will <wmartin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rob:
Do you understand how deletes work and how an index is compacted?

There's some configuration/runtime activities you don't mention.... And
you make testing process sound like a mirror of production? (Including
configuration?)


-will


On 11/5/15 7:33 AM, Rob Audenaerde wrote:

Hi all,
I'm currently investigating an issue we have with our index. It keeps
getting bigger, and I don't het why.

Here is our use case:

We index a database of about 4 million records; spread over a few
hundred
tables. The data consists of a mix of text, dates, numbers etc. We also
add
all these fields as facets.
Each night we delete about 90% of the data, which in testing reduces the
index size significantly.
We store the data as StoredFields as well, to prevent having to access
the
database at all.
We use FloatAssociatedFacet fields for the facets.


In production however, it seems the index is only growing, up to 71 GB
for
these records for a month of running.

It seems that lucene's index in just getting bigger there.

We use lucene 5.3 on CentOS, java 8 64 bit.

The taxonomy-index does not grow significantly.

How should I go about checking what is wrong?

Thanks!



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