Thanks for the note of caution Uwe.

> On our Jenkins server running with AMD Ryzen CPU it happens quite often
that JDK 16, JDK 17 and JDK 18 hang during tests and stay unkillable (only
a hard kill with" kill -9")

Scary stuff.
I'll try to reproduce the hang first and then try to get the JVM logs. I'll
respond back here if I find something useful.

> Do you get this error in lucene:core:ecjLintMain and not during compile?
Then this is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10185, solved
already.

Ahh. I should've been clearer with my comment. The error we see is because
we have forked the class and have modified it a bit.
I just assumed that the upstream Lucene package would've also gotten errors
on the JDK17 build because it was untouched.

-
Gautam Worah.


On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:07 AM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I would a bit careful: On our Jenkins server running with AMD Ryzen CPU
> it happens quite often that JDK 16, JDK 17 and JDK 18 hang during tests and
> stay unkillable (only a hard kill with" kill -9"). Previous Java versions
> don't hang. It happens not all the time (about 1/4th of all builds) and due
> to the fact that the JVM is unresponsible it is not possible to get a stack
> trace with "jstack". If you know a way to get the stack trace, I'd happy to
> get help.
>
> ooh that sounds scary. I suppose one could maybe get core dumps using
> the right signal and debug that way? Oh wait you said only 9 works,
> darn! How about attaching using gdb? Do we maintain GC logs for these
> Jenkins builds? Maybe something suspicious would show up there.
>
> By the way the JDK is absolutely "responsible" in this situation! Not
> responsive maybe ...
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:46 AM Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > Our team at Amazon Product Search recently ran our internal benchmarks
> with
> > > JDK 17.
> > > We saw a ~5% increase in throughput and are in the process of
> > > experimenting/enabling it in production.
> > > We also plan to test the new Corretto Generational Shenandoah GC.
> >
> > I would a bit careful: On our Jenkins server running with AMD Ryzen CPU
> it happens quite often that JDK 16, JDK 17 and JDK 18 hang during tests and
> stay unkillable (only a hard kill with" kill -9"). Previous Java versions
> don't hang. It happens not all the time (about 1/4th of all builds) and due
> to the fact that the JVM is unresponsible it is not possible to get a stack
> trace with "jstack". If you know a way to get the stack trace, I'd happy to
> get help.
> >
> > Once I figured out what makes it hang, I will open issues in OpenJDK (I
> am OpenJDK member/editor). I have now many stuck JVMs running to analyze on
> the server, so you're invited to help! At the moment, I have no time to
> take care, so any help is useful.
> >
> > > On a side note, the Lucene codebase still uses the deprecated (as of
> > > JDK17) AccessController
> > > in the RamUsageEstimator class.
> > > We suppressed the warning for now (based on recommendations
> > > <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-
> > > dev/202106.mbox/%3CJIRA.13369440.1617476525000.615331.16239514800
> > > 5...@atlassian.jira%3E>
> > > from the Apache Derby mailing list).
> >
> > This should not be an issue, because we compile Lucene with javac
> parameter "--release 11", so it won't show any warning that you need to
> suppress. Looks like your build system at Amazon is not the original one by
> Lucene's Gradle, which shows no warnings at all.
> >
> > Uwe
> >
> > > Gautam Worah.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 3:02 PM Michael McCandless <
> > > luc...@mikemccandless.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Also, I try to semi-aggressively upgrade Lucene's nightly benchmarks
> to new
> > > > JDK releases and leave an annotation on the nightly charts:
> > > > https://home.apache.org/~mikemccand/lucenebench/
> > > >
> > > > I just now upgraded to JDK 17 and kicked off a new benchmark run ...
> in a
> > > > few hours it should show the new data points and then I'll try to
> remember
> > > > to annotate it tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > So let's see whether nightly benchmarks uncover any performance
> changes
> > > > from JDK17 :)
> > > >
> > > > Mike McCandless
> > > >
> > > > http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 5:36 PM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We test different releases on different platforms (e.g. Linux,
> Windows,
> > > > > Mac).
> > > > > We also test EA (Early Access) releases of openjdk versions during
> the
> > > > > development process.
> > > > > This finds bugs before they get released.
> > > > >
> > > > > More information about versions/EA testing:
> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 5:33 PM Kevin Rosendahl
> > > > > <kevindrosend...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are using Lucene 8 and planning to upgrade from Java 11 to
> Java 17.
> > > > We
> > > > > > are curious:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    - How lucene is testing against java versions. Are there
> correctness
> > > > > and
> > > > > >    performance tests using java 17?
> > > > > >       - Additionally, besides Java 17, how are new Java releases
> > > > tested?
> > > > > >    - Are there any other orgs using Java 17 with Lucene?
> > > > > >    - Any other considerations we should be aware of?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Kevin Rosendahl
> > > > >
> > > > >
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