Hi! > I am trying to create a tool to read docs from a lucene5 index and generate lucene9 documents from them (with docValues). That might work, right? I am shading both lucene5 and lucene9 to avoid package conflicts.
I am doing the following steps: - create IndexReader with lucene5 package over a lucene5 index - create IndexWriter with lucene7 package - iterate over reader.numDocs() to process each Document (lucene5) - convert each Document (lucene5) to lucene7 Document - for each IndexableField (lucene5) from Document (lucene5) convert it to create an IndexableField (lucene7) - create a SortedDocValuesField (lucene7) and add it to the Document (lucene7) - add the field to the Document (lucene7) - add each converted Document to the writer - close IndexReader and IndexWriter When I open the resulting migrated lucene7 index with Luke I got an error: org.apache.lucene.index.IndexFormatTooNewException: Format version is not supported (resource BufferedChecksumIndexInput(MMapIndexInput(path="tests_small_index-7.x-migrator\segments_1"))): 9 (needs to be between 6 and 7) When I use the tool "luceneupgrader <https://github.com/hakanai/luceneupgrader>", I got: java -jar luceneupgrader-0.5.2-SNAPSHOT.jar info tests_small_index-7.x-migrator Lucene index version: 7 What am I doing wrong or misleading? Thanks! El mié, 2 nov 2022 a las 21:13, Pablo Vázquez Blázquez (<pabl...@gmail.com>) escribió: > Hi, > > Luckily we were already using lucenemigrator > > > What do you mean with "lucenemigrator"? Is it a public tool? > > I am trying to create a tool to read docs from a lucene5 index and > generate lucene9 documents from them (with docValues). That might work, > right? I am shading both lucene5 and lucene9 to avoid package conflicts. > > Thanks! > > El mar, 1 nov 2022 a las 0:35, Trejkaz (<trej...@trypticon.org>) escribió: > >> Well... >> >> There's a way, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. >> >> You can write custom migration code against some version of Lucene >> which supports doc values, to create doc values fields. It's going to >> involve writing a FilterCodecReader which wraps your real index and >> then pretends to also have doc values, which you'll build in a custom >> class which works similarly to UninvertingReader. Then you pass those >> CodecReaders to IndexWriter.addIndexes to create a new index which >> really has those doc values. >> >> We did that ourselves when we had the same issue. The only painful >> thing about it is having to keep around older versions of lucene to do >> that migration. Forever. Luckily we were already using lucenemigrator, >> which has the older versions baked into it with package prefixes. So >> that library will get fatter and fatter over time but at least our own >> code only gets fatter at the rate migrations are added. >> >> The same approach works for any other kind of ad-hoc migration you >> might want to perform. e.g., you might want to create points. Or >> remove an index for a field. Or add an index for a field. >> >> TX >> >> >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 02:57, Pablo Vázquez Blázquez <pabl...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Thank you all for your responses. >> > >> > So, when updating to a newer (major) Lucene version that modifies its >> > codecs, there is no way to ensure everything keeps working properly, >> unless >> > re-indexing, right? >> > >> > Apart from not having some original sources that were indexed (which I >> will >> > try to solve by using the *IndexUpgrader *tool), I have another >> problem: I >> > was using the org.apache.lucene.uninverting.UninvertingReader to perform >> > queries against the index, mainly using the grouping api. But >> currently, it >> > was removed (since Lucene 7.0). So, again, do I have any other >> alternative, >> > apart from re-indexing to use docValues? >> > >> > To give you more context, I am a developer of a tool that multiple >> > customers can use to index their data (currently, with Lucene 5.5.5). We >> > are planning to upgrade to Lucene 9 (because of some vulnerabilities >> > affecting Lucene 5.5.5) and I think asking them to reindex will not go >> down >> > well :( >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > El sáb, 29 oct 2022 a las 23:31, Matt Davis (<kryptonics...@gmail.com>) >> > escribió: >> > >> > > Inside of Zulia search engine, the object being indexed is always a >> > > JSON/BSON object and we store the BSON as a stored byte field in the >> > > index. This allows easy internal reindexing when the searchable >> fields >> > > change but also allows us to update to the latest lucene version. >> > > Combined with using lucene-backward-codecs an older index than the >> current >> > > major version can be opened and reindexed. If you have stored all the >> > > fields (or a json/bson) in the index, it would be easy to reindex in >> the >> > > new format. If you have not, maybe opening with >> lucene-backward-codecs >> > > will be enough for your use case. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Matt >> > > >> > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 2:30 PM Baris Kazar <baris.ka...@oracle.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > It is always great practice to retain non-indexed >> > > > data since when Lucene changes version, >> > > > even minor version, I always reindex. >> > > > >> > > > Best regards >> > > > ________________________________ >> > > > From: Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2022 2:17 PM >> > > > To: java-user@lucene.apache.org <java-user@lucene.apache.org> >> > > > Subject: Re: Best strategy migrate indexes >> > > > >> > > > Hi Pablo, >> > > > >> > > > The deafening silence is probably nobody wanting to give you the bad >> > > news. >> > > > You are on a mission that may not be feasible, and even if you can >> get it >> > > > to "work", the end result won't likely be equivalent to indexing the >> > > > original data with Lucene 9.x. The indexing process is fundamentally >> > > lossy >> > > > and information originally used to produce non-stored fields will >> have >> > > been >> > > > thrown out. A simple example is things like stopwords or anything >> > > analyzed >> > > > with subclasses of FilteringTokenFilter. If the stop word list >> changed, >> > > or >> > > > the details of one of these filters changed (bugfix?), you will end >> up >> > > with >> > > > a different result than indexing with 9.x. This is just one >> > > > example, another would be stemming where the index likely only >> contains >> > > the >> > > > stem, not the whole word. Other folks who are more interested in the >> > > > details of our codecs than I am can probably provide further >> examples on >> > > a >> > > > more fundamental level. Lucene is not a database, and the source >> > > documents >> > > > should always be retained in a form that can be reindexed. If you >> have >> > > > inherited a system where source material has not been retained, you >> have >> > > a >> > > > difficult project and may have some potentially painful expectation >> > > setting >> > > > to perform. >> > > > >> > > > Best, >> > > > Gus >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 8:01 AM Pablo Vázquez Blázquez < >> > > pabl...@gmail.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi all, >> > > > > >> > > > > I have some indices indexed with lucene 5.5.0. I have updated my >> > > > > dependencies and code to Lucene 7 (but my final goal is to use >> Lucene >> > > 9) >> > > > > and when trying to work with them I am having the exception: >> > > > > org.apache.lucene.index.IndexFormatTooOldException: Format >> version is >> > > not >> > > > > supported (resource >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> BufferedChecksumIndexInput(MMapIndexInput(path=".......\tests\segments_b"))): >> > > > > this index is too old (version: 5.5.0). This version of Lucene >> only >> > > > > supports indexes created with release 6.0 and later. >> > > > > >> > > > > I want to migrate from Lucene 5.x to Lucene 9.x. Which is the best >> > > > > strategy? Is there any tool to migrate the indices? Is it >> mandatory to >> > > > > reindex? In this case, how can I deal with this when I do not >> have the >> > > > > sources of documents that generated my current indices (I mean, I >> just >> > > > have >> > > > > the indices themselves)? >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Pablo Vázquez >> > > > > (pabl...@gmail.com) >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.needhamsoftware.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!PVR-c0gAs5FpIrnotHWeo3sEWScxV8oFJrVpGdItGZictcDbRvnp5aZSqCRhglMCYqQsewQOuio4iIYARA$ >> > > > (work) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.the111shift.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!PVR-c0gAs5FpIrnotHWeo3sEWScxV8oFJrVpGdItGZictcDbRvnp5aZSqCRhglMCYqQsewQOuirxfFWpEQ$ >> > > > (play) >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Pablo Vázquez >> > (pabl...@gmail.com) >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >> > > -- > Pablo Vázquez > (pabl...@gmail.com) > -- Pablo Vázquez (pabl...@gmail.com)