Cool! I'm glad that you're going to persue a model similar to Red Hat.
I think that is the best way for this stuff to succeed.
I know that I personally would like to buy a 'boxed' product that had
manuals, etc. in it. That's why I buy RH boxed.
As far as ANT being 'useless toy', believe what you like.
We use it for large/complex J2EE based builds at work (logistics
programs for the US Navy). It works beautifully. Also most of the new
Apache stuff uses ANT. It is already integrated into most Java IDE's
now (Netbeans, Eclipse, JBuilder, JDeveloper, etc.). I don't think such
a large segment java development community would be using this tool if
it were just a 'useless toy'.
Anyway, keep up the great work....Oh, I'm looking forward to that
particle demo you were talking about. Is there an applet online?
Mike
Justin Couch wrote:
Michael P. McCutcheon wrote:
I looked at the XSLTExample, and it is quite a bit more complex than the
DOMtoJ3D utility, but as long as it works, that'll be great.
It's a little, but not much more. You can hide most of it if you do it
once. In future work we might wrap it up a bit to make it easier to work
with, but that really depends on our future demands.
I hope that you make a pre-compiled download of M6 without the
installer. I personally like the simpler downloads that just have all
of the pre-compiled .jars in them :)
There will be. Windows users are the only ones that need the
hand-holding of an installer. Everyone else seems to be more comfortable
with a zip file and DIY.
As for the open sourceness of it, I sincerely hope that it stays open.
I believe that as this stuff becomes more visible, the open-sourcenesss
will become more important.
Ah, a misunderstanding. It always will be open source. However, we will
end up doing something like the RedHat model which is to stick a box
around a CD and some better manuals and then selling that at some price
point. Military and Government folks are not interested in zip files or
even downloadable installers. They need something that they can charge
money to and hold something physical in their hand. That's the market
we're catering too. Things are OK now, but in a few months, one of our
main contracts runs out and so we need to start getting other people to
cough up cash to continue the development. Putting it in a box and
selling it is one way of doing that. We've got other ideas, but haven't
really looked at it (the JBoss model of selling documentation is
another).
Just out of curiosity, why isn't Apache ANT used for the build process?
See the archives for a detailed response to this as I've already been
through this a number of times: ANT is a useless toy that is not useful
for building serious projects.
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Justin Couch http://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/
Java Architect & Bit Twiddler http://www.yumetech.com/
Author, Java 3D FAQ Maintainer http://www.j3d.org/
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