Nothing personal, Daniel, but I feel I have to speak up on this one...


Daniel Selman wrote:
> There has been a marked drop in (useful) traffic on the list - in
> fact everyone seems to be leaving - badly!

These people are simply not obeying the new rules for unsubscribing to
the list.  I'm sure there are normally this many people subscribing and
unsubscribing from this list everyday -- it is a very popular list.
Hopefully this won't be long term, or perhaps Sun might put in a filter
to bounce these unsubscribes back with instructions on how to correctly
leave the list.


> I also peeved that all mail from the list is addressed to
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as this breaks our automatic mail
> forwarding system. Why is the intended recipient not used in the
> TO: field of the message? Most list servers have a setting to chose
> between using the list name in the TO: field or the list member
> name.

Configure your system to look at the for<> field -- not the To:   Most
mail forwarders have this option  :)


> Is this a problem at my end or does everyone see this in the TO:
> field?

No, it's not a problem at your end -- just the way email works.  It
actually makes it easier for people to use filters in their email
client, so it's probably a good thing to keep.


> Maybe Sun would have been better advised to actually *ask* the
> people using the list what kinds of features and the sort of system
> they would like to have, rather than seemingly suddenly imposing a
> new system.

I'd say we should be glad they provide the resource -- it is not
required by them at all and I, for one, greatly appreciate the
opportunity to communicate with other Java3D-ers.


> The old system certainly had its problems: messages would regularly
> disappear up Sun's ether, never to be seen on the list, and I often
> wouldn't receive any messages for a couple of days, and then would
> receive a ton at once. The digest was even more erratic!

I can't say I've ever had these troubles -- perhaps you should check
your service provider?


> Just my two-pence worth,

And this was just my two cents...
which, here in Australia, rounds down to zero  :)



        Hoping he doesn't start a nasty flame-war,
                Leon Blackwell


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