To add my 2p worth - not just discussion of said libraries but
dependable ratings/reviews... with Google yes you'll find a library
but unless its a popular one, you'll have only the author's view on
how good it is. Nobody disses their own work! And of course Google is
good at finding several needles in the haystack, but to work out which
of several libraries to select you end up trawling the library sites
themselves and possibly wider to find those discussions to help decide
which is best to investigate further.

In a library indexing site I'd like to see:
- The ability for users to award libraries a star rating
- The ability for users to submit reviews/references

So, when I search for (say) an XML-FO engine I can see search results
complete with ratings and if there are any reviews available, so
straight away I can see what is popular.

Of course there is no reason why, if presented as a search engine, the
site couldn't categorise and index the pages that hold the
discussions...

On Sep 26, 3:00 am, Alexey Zinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I take Luke's point not only to mean that there are listings of libraries 
> that we can search, but also discussions of said libraries.  In my 
> experience, those bits of personal reviews are every bit as valuable as 
> feature lists and API docs.  And as Luke said, it's all googlable right now.
>
> Alexey
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> --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Michael Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: Michael Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: 206: Libraries
> > To: "The Java Posse" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 8:02 PM
> > I agree with your points, but I can see Joe "Cougar
> > Magnet's" point -
> > its about the hassle of choice. Choice is intuitively a
> > good thing,
> > but every choice you make takes energy, more energy then
> > you realise.
> > So you can spend a lot of time choosing, and be exhausted
> > without
> > actually doing any real work.
>
> > On Sep 26, 9:28 am, edencane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi.
>
> > > In response to episode 206 about Libraries.
> > > First a disclaimer:
> > > I have listened to all JP episodes and I love you
> > guys.
>
> > > Ok. Libraries. I saw the other thread on this and
> > frankly: No one
> > > seems to get it!
> > > Maybe they did and I didnt read it, then apologies...
>
> > > 1.0 Librarylibrary.com
>
> > > No one's thinking outside the box on this. All
> > responses to the
> > > Library discussion are, no offence, sucked in.
> > > We dont need Librarylibrary.com. It's a bad idea!
> > We dont live in the
> > > 90's we live in the age of hypersearch.
> > > Ever heard of CPAN? Well we DONT NEED THAT. (BTW. Why
> > did you omit
> > > that in the discussion).
> > > Dont get me wrong CPAN is/was great.
> > > But we dont need another aggregation site.
> > > We've got search.
> > > So forget the site that bundles all java libraries...
> > Use google.
> > > A well crafted search can deliver you every library
> > you'll need for
> > > Java.
> > > Like Tor said: he needed a YAML library, so he
> > googled. Nothing else
> > > needed!
>
> > > 2.0 Multitudinous libraries
>
> > > Limiting the amount of java libraries is like trying
> > to blot out part
> > > of the sky at night coz it's just too bright.
> > Well, wear sunnies at
> > > night!
> > > The bazaar. Think chaos upon chaos. With the wealth of
> > libraries out
> > > there we are able form a mass of libraries from which
> > there will be
> > > the uberperformers.
> > > (Thinking of Hibernate here).
> > > The fact that there are thousands of frameworks,
> > doesnt mean we need
> > > to get rid of some of them or, God forbid,
> > standardise[Ugh]. It means
> > > we are more likely, at some point, to strike the one
> > governs them all.
>
> > > Think Lame jokes. The posse should know what Im
> > talking about (-;
> > > If there are enought lame jokes, then the bed is made
> > for that one
> > > killer joke.
> > > Think sports. When China has excelling gymnasts that
> > take all the gold
> > > medals, take into the picture all those gymnasts that
> > just didnt make
> > > the grade and then the multitudes of gymnasts that the
> > China was able
> > > to pick them from (with a pool like that you're
> > bound to come up with
> > > winners).
> > > These 2 examples serve to illustrate that having a
> > wealth of
> > > development and effort out there, means swifter
> > progress, more
> > > interchange of ideas and fertile ground for the
> > development community
> > > (especially if projects are open source).
>
> > > I thought Tor was the only one in the discussion who
> > some sort of
> > > connection with reality.
> > > Go Tor!
>
> > > postdisclaimer: As you know guys I love you to bits
> > and thanks for the
> > > podcasts!
>
> > > Kind regards.
> > > Luke Vanderfluit- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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