This is true. The VM spec really hasn't changed much. Java 7 may bring  
the first new changes in a while. The VM itself has changed  
dramatically, of course, but it's all under the hood optimizations.  
The spec itself was designed to remain unchanged for a long time.

- J

On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Kram wrote:

>
> Well thats good news, I guess thats what I needed to know aswell.
>
> Seeing how the IT world in general has advanced exponentially in the
> last 8 years, you can understand why we would "expect" the changes in
> the VM to change dramatically too, which is why buying an 8 year old
> book initially doesnt seem like a good idea...
>
> Bod,
> Yeah I did actually think of that, it would be a perfect way of
> getting to know the bytecode better. Thanks!
>
> On Oct 4, 9:51 am, robilad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The VM spec hasn't changed a whole lot in the past 8 years.
>>
>> On Oct 2, 5:53 pm, "Mark Volkmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Those books are both at least eight years old. Is there anything  
>>> more
>>> up-to-date than those?
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Casper Bang  
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't think you'll find a better intro to the internals than Bill
>>>> Winners "Inside the 
>>>> JVM":http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Java-Virtual-Machine-Venners/dp/0071350934
>>>> Either that or "Programming for the JVM":
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Java-TM-Virtual-Machine/dp/02013097 
>>>> ...
>>
>>>> Both are a bit dated, but cover all the basics of instructions,  
>>>> stack
>>>> frames etc. Some of the stuff are real eye openers, i.e. the
>>>> difference between a cast and a conversion, and how closely  
>>>> linked the
>>>> byte code and the (original) Java syntax really is.
>>
>>>> /Casper
>>
>>>> Kram wrote:
>>>>> Firstly I am relatively new to Java only been developing for 2 - 3
>>>>> years, which I know isnt a noobie, but not yet seasoned.
>>
>>>>> I really enjoyed the latest episode a lot, Ive listened to it a  
>>>>> few
>>>>> times now, and I find the lower level parts of the JVM and  
>>>>> bytecode
>>>>> very interesting.
>>
>>>>> Although I didnt understand all of what was said on the posse  
>>>>> ep, I
>>>>> would love to start on a educational journey to learn more about
>>>>> bytecode and the JVM.
>>
>>>>> I was wondering if anyone out there knows of some good, recent  
>>>>> books
>>>>> that they could recommend?
>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Mark
>>
>>> --
>>> R. Mark Volkmann
>>> Object Computing, Inc.
> >


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