No worries Christian. I am just trying to offer an opinion. I actually started using Java as stored procedures within the Oracle DBMS years ago...then went on to use it for complete apps as opposed to PL/SQL. Like I said earlier, PL/SQL has it's niche. That niche is in the database as stored procedures, triggers, etc. I've written plenty of PL/SQL web applications and JavaEE provides a much better technology stack for the web (by far) in my opinion. Also, PL/SQL doesn't offer any GUI solutions. That is why Oracle had originally produced Oracle forms. They were good for their time, but I think the trend is towards Java. We shall see in the coming weeks/months, but I think that Oracle/Sun will maintain Java and continue to let it progress. Josh Juneau [email protected] http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com http://www.gathereventplanning.com Twitter ID: javajuneau
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Christian Catchpole < [email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry Josh. That was not intended as a slur against PL/SQL. I can't > say I know too much about it. > > On Apr 21, 11:27 am, Josh Juneau <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry to keep chiming in on this thread, but I just do not believe > > that this will be bad for Java. As a PL/SQL and Java developer, I can > > tell you that PL/SQL has it's place as does Java. They are both good > > at performing different tasks. One cannot overtake the other. > > > > On another note, I've watched a lot over the past few years and they > > have a lot vested in Java and plan to move people off Oracle forms and > > into Java web applications. There is a definite trend towards the use > > of Java. > > > > Josh Juneau > > DBA-Application Developer > > > > On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Christian Catchpole < > [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Someone here at work suggested that Oracle may want to only support > > > one language. And that Java would be dropped in preference for PL/ > > > SQL. > > > > > On Apr 21, 8:39 am, Josh Juneau <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> There are many advantages of running on the JVM. Remember, we are > > >> not > > >> just talking about Java here, but rather all languages that run on > > >> the > > >> JVM. There are also thousands of great Java libraries already > > >> available. Thus, also a great reason to run languages such as Python > > >> on the JVM. Lots of great technology lives in the Java world. > > > > >> Josh Juneau > > >> DBA-Application Developer > > > > >> On Apr 20, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Pete F > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> Like Ferris Bueller said: "You're still here? It's over. Go home. > > >>> Go.." > > > > >>> I guess if you do "enterprisey" stuff, then it is business as usual. > > > > >>> But enterprisey means ever increasing complexity, and backward > > >>> compatibility forever -and thus the death of any language. > > > > >>> So if you want to work at internet speed -then you might well see > > >>> this as the final capture of java by the enterprise and just another > > >>> step in the slow death of java -ashes to ashes. > > > > >>> But hey -if you remember Ferris Bueller, then you are of a certain > > >>> age. **You have been working on Java too long** Why do you love the > > >>> platform so much, really?? > > > > >>> TIme to move on. Newspeak looks interesting :-) > > > > >>> Pete F > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
