-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 8/1/10 23:07 , Mario Fusco wrote: > I must admit I don't like the employer you are impersonating, but > in the same way I must say it is sadly similar to some situations > I experienced during my working life in Italy. I wonder if the > same happens with the same frequency in other possibly more > technology savvy places like USA or northern Europe. I'd be curious too. My opinion is that the only advantage in many places are a higher salary than Italy (also because of lower taxes), but the quality scenario is similar. I only have a very limited experience, so I'd like to hear from others.
> > In the end, despite I believe your analysis is more realistic than > pessimistic, I also think that with a little effort (and > practically with no cost) is possible to make your working life > more stimulant and interesting. Innovation is not a luxury. And > having smart people working in an environment able to innovate is a > win-win situation for both the employer and the employees. Do you > think it is so difficult to "sell" my analysis to an averagely wise > manager/employer? Difficult, it's difficult (I mean, I find it difficult even to have the testing culture accepted, which is a simpler issue); but difficult doesn't mean impossible. In my opinion, it's a thing that should be exercised by playing the devil's advocate a lot. PS To complete the scenario, back to simplicity vs powerfulness, for a new language to be successful I think the same "magic" that made the Java success should repeat. Now, I'd like to recall that at the time it was C++ vs Java, and that Java 1.0 was everything but more powerful than C++; both on the client and on the server. It was simpler, a lot simpler, and this was relevant. So, perhaps we could start a new thread: is it possible to trim Scala? I mean, are there features of the language that can be dropped, thus reducing complexity, still keeping a 'core' of advantages? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxV5U8ACgkQeDweFqgUGxdu0ACglzb4jS7OwIw8yaH7v88IvYQz 6TsAnA4TDoDOiXWi06LL9lwzZbCFVhLf =yUde -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.