Hello,

To fund the company. It sounds so easy , but really very difficult in
practice. Or even impossible. I did in past some dreams about it.
Well, I spent my money on idea. (positive experience) Wrote code. And
even if idea is good, and even if code is really fast and robust.
well, working application. Business is different topic. Once you go on
production you see a lot of questions not relevant to coding,
obviously. Bottom line: you have to change your profession or keep
doing what you really like :) you need to be ready for that step.

Second, I'm not first day on a contract job. That's ok to work 6
months or even 4 years on a contract position till your boss needs
you.
You finish all and you move on. It makes no sense to keep the
position, anyway there's nothing to write any more.

But overtime I observe the different "pattern". I have feeling that
people are after your experience and know-how. They prefer you spend
"work time" sitting next to them and talking about how it works and
what to do in that case and so on. asking you to be more chatty and
write different type of papers about. And all that after 1 month.
Aiming to get maximum "how to do" from you about particular topic +
working code base. Good idea.

if companies are protected by low. patents + other top secret stuff.
Should programmer disclose his own "how-to"s? remembering how long it
takes, tons of books, variety of conferences, people, articles.
Don't need VSM to see a strait line btw "doing the job" and
"transferring knowledge" to help put you out as soon as possible.

On Oct 17, 9:06 am, Shaine Ismail <shain...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Depends on the nature and terms of the contract.  A previous contract I
> signed assigned any ip and code I developed to be the property of the
> company (even stuff I worked on in my own time).
>
> Regards
> Shaine Ismail
> On Oct 17, 2011 7:01 AM, "Jan Goyvaerts" <java.arti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm having a hard time to believe someone can take it that way. UNLESS it
> > was agreed upfront the contract was for a specific task only. In that case
> > you knew they'll end it once it was done.
>
> > But it doesn't look like that's the case here. Or was it ?
>
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 04:37, Michael Burgess 
> > <mburg...@dedata.com.au>wrote:
>
> >> Hi Alexander,
>
> >> While I understand your frustration, this seems like a reasonable way
> >> to get something done.
>
> >> Let me explain, I once worked for a someone in the medical industry
> >> who had a great idea for manufacturing parts. Now, he had no expertise
> >> in manufacturing or software development, but what he did was find the
> >> resources, like software engineers and CAD/CAM experts which he
> >> contracted to develop a system to perform this new process.
>
> >> This job was fun, interesting and challenging and I got to work in
> >> areas I previously hadn't.
>
> >> Once the software was in production and the tooling was perfected he
> >> stopped using expensive contractors and found someone more affordable
> >> and able to build on the foundations we put together.
>
> >> Last I heard the business is doing well. Now he paid us for our
> >> services to implement his idea. We contributed and made improvements
> >> to what he was trying to do, but we weren't business partners or
> >> owners, we were the hammer and nails to get his job done.
>
> >> If you want to get the benefits, come up with the idea, fund it, and,
> >> assuming success, enjoy the fruits of your labor.
>
> >> I guess what I am saying is that just because someone cannot
> >> personally implement the solution to a particular problem, what is
> >> wrong with them getting someone like yourself in for a short time to
> >> help solve that problem.
>
> >> Michael
>
> >> On Oct 17, 6:35 am, "a.efremov" <a.efre...@javasmith.org> wrote:
> >> > It smells as modern days stilling, people promise you contract job and
> >> > interesting work, load you 10h/day. then simply run away with your
> >> > results. Well, you got a bit of money for that. That's not so bad.
> >> > What to do, keep mouth locked and let them do anything with code base.
> >> > Finish code and go away.
>
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