Yes, but on the other hand I'm *not* going back to the native languages any more. I'm staying with the JVM. Whether it's oracle's, ibm's or anybody's else JVM.
That's why I'm busy with Scala and Clojure these days. Combining a fast VM and modern, productive languages. But that's another story. :-) On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Carl Jokl <carl.j...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is frustrating. Enough of these disappointments and setbacks would make > me tempted to want to work with something else sometimes yet the problem > remains that the alternatives still have issues. Features get into .Net in > a timely manner but then developing with that introduces lots of political > problems. Go to C/C++? It is moving more slowly than Java and not very > productive. Objective-C? Quirky and showing its age. I don't know, I get > fed up with the Java leadership promising much and then failing to deliver > or repeatedly under-delivering on what was promised. However moaning about > it is not likely to change anything. Oracle isn't going to listen. > > > On 18 July 2012 11:39, Moandji Ezana <mwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Carl Jokl <carl.j...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Reading the title makes me feel a tad better. I thought for a moment >>> that Project Jigsaw was being abandoned altogether. This would be a shame >>> given that I think that it is about more than just JavaFX and as said would >>> be a step towards cleaning up the platform and being able to drop a lot of >>> deprecated cruft eventually. This would be good for everyone surely, >>> client, server and embedded? >> >> >> That would be nice, but if it's only released in 2015, that means >> adoption will only really begin in 2016-2017 (as it has to be adopted not >> only by applications, but also by libraries, servers and IDEs). In 5 years, >> the landscape might have changed enough to make Jigsaw unnecessary. >> >> It's also kind of depressing that it would take nearly a decade to roll >> out something that's supposed to make the platform easier to evolve. >> >> Moandji >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
