I've been using Arch for several years now and, except for few complete
meltdowns of X's (yes evdev, I'm looking at you), everything just works.
I'm doing 'pacman -Syu' once a week, staying away from the testing branch
and rebooting only after kernel upgrades... And reinstall is always easy:
install packages, mount /home and copy this, this and this file to /etc.
I tried Ubuntu few times and IMHO it sucks. It's eye-candy and you can find
solution for every problem with Ubuntu in "the internets" but it sucks
everywhere else. Errors all the time, services starting/stopping/crashing
in the background for reasons unknown, important packages from strange
repositories (Java for example). Ehh.. I just don't like Ubuntu for
Desktop. My friends, on the other hand (mostly Java devs like me), are
using Ubuntu and are completely fine with it. Hell, they are happy with
it's simplicity, wizards and drivers for the printers :)
Regards,
Blazej Bucko
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Dale Wijnand <dale.wijn...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 12 September 2012 09:47, Jan Goyvaerts <java.arti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Aha ! *Finally* an actual Arch user ! :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Dale Wijnand <dale.wijn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:18:42 PM UTC+2, KWright wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What arch, gentoo, etc. really get you is configurability, but you WILL
>>>> be paying for that by spending more time in actually doing the
>>>> configuration and maintaining it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As Jan stated, yes, the initial configuration is a lot longer than
>>> normal installations. But maintaining it? Last time I used Arch I only had
>>> to remind myself to check for updates, and occasionally merge updates on a
>>> modified etc config file (which is normally pretty fast).
>>>
>>> Note: I'm talking about Arch, I've never run Gentoo.
>>>
>>> How has your experience with Arch been different to mine?
>>>
>>
>> No clue. I've just did the installation with the wiki next to me. And I
>> don't mind that. Because it's a one-off thing. But from there I'd rather
>> not fight the OS only for the sake of having Arch. It's to get a stable,
>> lightweight and fast OS. That will never be broken by any release.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>
> I think that you always kind-of fight the OS, no matter what OS it is, and
> one solution is to reformat and reinstall, which might be an easy or a
> difficult solution.
>
> The point of Arch for me is that it tries to keep updated with most of its
> components and integrates them (solving any issues) quickly, and releasing
> them when they are ready, instead of waiting and trying to synchronise
> everything for a 6 or 12-month release schedule.
>
> Personally I'd go with an always updated, stable system, in which I have
> to dedicate a bit of time to update and handle any issues, then to have
> something like Ubuntu where I'm basically better off re-installing every 6
> months because I don't trust it to upgrade properly.
>
> However, if Kevin's experience is different, I'd be interested in hearing
> them.
>
> Dale
>
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