On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 21:07 +0200, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:57:31 +0200, Casper Bang <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I think it's a crying shame the Java space has been so conservative, to > > this day I still don't get why we Sun/Oracle didn't go all in with a lean > > next-gen replacement to remain relevant and give C# some competition.
Because JetBrains have Kotlin, RedHat have Ceylon, there is Scala, Groovy, JRuby, Jython, Clojure, and yet Java is what the average programmer writes. > It's still our old story: given that Java may be slowly declining, but > it's still much more spread than C# (BTW, the latest Tiobe says that ObjC > is 3rd and passed C#), perhaps Sun and Oracle made (mostly) the right > choices. Navel gazing of this sort is not constructive. I care about getting software-based things that actually work and do not have brain-dead user interfaces and user experiences. 90% of programmers couldn't design a UI with good UX is a century of Sunday's. Witness all the f###### crap we get as Web applications. I have yet to find any "shopping site" – all written using Java or ASP.NET – that is anything other than a real pain to use. I got beyond caring about programming language hegemony long ago. Now I care about the rubbish that is forced onto society by the average programmer. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:[email protected] 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: [email protected] London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
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