I agree that HTML5 is the way forward. And I also believe that a more 
client/server approach with API calls is the way forward. But I would like 
to have more than belief to base the decision upon. Therefore I 
am interested to see if anyone has managed to create a good HTML5 web 
2.0ish site with the Java standards, JSF and portlets. But based on the 
discussion no one seams to know any :).


On Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:17:37 PM UTC+2, James Ward wrote:
>
> I believe this is possible today via PhoneGap-ish Desktop App frameworks 
> and with Windows 8 you can build desktop apps with HTML5.  Ubuntu is 
> also working on making desktop apps from web technologies.  As well as 
> Chrome OS.  :) 
>
> HTML5 will soon be the most ubiquitous UI technology for web, desktop, 
> and mobile apps.  :) 
>
> -James 
>
>
> On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 16:20 -0300, Ricky Clarkson wrote: 
> > Wake me up when you can write to a DVD drive from HTML5. 
> > 
> > Desktop apps have their problems but I believe they're more in 
> > security than straight ugliness/difficulty.  Who wants to run my 
> > random exe file compared to navigating to my random web page? 
> > Virtually nobody, because the OSs don't sandbox applications, they 
> > sandbox users.  That needs fixing, plus the requirement of admin 
> > rights to install apps needs removing, then we can eliminate this 
> > pointless web/desktop boundary and start writing more straightforward 
> > code again. 
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Casper Bang 
> > <[email protected]<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thursday, October 18, 2012 6:34:19 PM UTC+2, fabrizio.giudici 
> wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> This is agreeable (for the relevant contexts), but we should also be 
> aware 
> > >> that architectures have had a flip-flop attitude in the past years. 
> > >> Client/Server was also the apparent trend fifteen years ago, then 
> things 
> > >> changed, and then changed again. I would not bet a single eurocent 
> that 
> > >> within two years things will stay the same. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For sure, trends come and go even in our geeky world. However, the 
> world is 
> > > getting more heterogeneous and I don't really see what would make the 
> > > pendulum swing back - certainly not in two years from now. We went 
> from 
> > > modal applications based on 80x24 ASCII characters, to windowed 
> desktop 
> > > applications, to model2 browser applications and now finally to native 
> > > mobile iOS/Android apps. With devices getting more and more diverse 
> and 
> > > embedded service consumption moving into printers, TV's, set-tops etc. 
> I 
> > > don't see the current HTML5/Ajax model (Canvas, LocalStorage, 
> WebSockets 
> > > etc.) going away anytime soon. And really, I doubt very many are going 
> to 
> > > miss Swing, Silverlight nor Flash. 
> > > 
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