Reiner,

How would you qualify Clay's posting containing these argument fragments?

   - *This is the most childish, baseless attack I've ever read.*
   - *This is garbage*
   - *All attack and insults and Java sucks*
   - *This is just hateful trolling of the laziest and worst kind.*
   - *a big flaming pile of dung*
   - *hateful insults*
   - *you are trolling in the worst, laziest, and most disgusting way*
   - *deeply embarrassed for posting this kind of thing*

Is it constructive critisism?

Insulting the poster (ad hominem) for insulting Java 8 Lambda implentation.

A case of the pot calling the kettle black.

/Morten

On 12 March 2013 12:28, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you link to wikipedia pages, do you actually read them?
>
> That wasn't an ad hominem attack. Ad hominem is: "His argument is wrong
> because he has an ugly face".
>
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 9:36:38 AM UTC+1, morten hattesen wrote:
>>
>> Dear Clay, I couldn't help laughing, when I read your post.
>>
>> This is clearly the most clear example of the pot calling the kettle
>> black <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black> I
>> have ever seen.
>>
>> Your post contains nothing, but ad 
>> hominem<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem>attacks. Nothing to counter 
>> the substance of the argument. It is, in fact,
>> completely off topic.
>>
>> I guess you havn't had a good day, and just felt like letting out a some
>> steam ;)
>>
>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:13:28 AM UTC+1, clay wrote:
>>>
>>> "A Java™ Parallel Calamity"!?!?
>>>
>>> *This is the most childish, baseless attack I've ever read.*
>>>
>>> If you are going to attack this technology for performance, you need
>>> some kind of benchmarks to even begin to look like a serious criticism and
>>> not just childish insults without any point.
>>>
>>> When JDK7 launched:  I did some benchmarks of my own: I implemented a
>>> simple quick sort in serial, one with a simple thread pool with locked data
>>> queues, one with a lockless data queues (using Atomic check-and-set ops),
>>> and a fork-join implementation. The results were slightly hard to
>>> interpret. For small volumes of data, serial worked the fastest. Locked
>>> data queues were always slow. My custom lockless data queues worked about
>>> as fast as JDK7 fork/join in the higher volume cases.
>>>
>>> *This is garbage. All attack and insults and Java sucks, .NET rules,
>>> and nothing to back it up with.*
>>>
>>> I am critical of Java 8 (and Guava) for omitting map and flatMap from
>>> Optional. I am critical of the Java language for other things, but I have
>>> actual specific points with some kind of reason and evidence. *This is
>>> just hateful trolling of the laziest and worst kind.*
>>>
>>> Cedric, no *he shouldn't submit this to lambda-dev*. Anyone can write
>>> Java is *a big flaming pile of dung* and send it, but they shouldn't.
>>> Thoughtful negativity is ok. *Ranting crazy hateful insults* are not.
>>> If you have some better ideas, or if you think .NET has some better ideas,
>>> you should start with some benchmarks or something close so that we can
>>> rule out* this kind of utter crap*. I have benchmarked fork/join as I
>>> said and it did reasonably well. Even Typesafe uses JDK fork/join under the
>>> hood for some Scala/Akka stuff and I suspect they chose it for a reason.
>>>
>>> Edward and Casper, *you are trolling in the worst, laziest, and most
>>> disgusting way*. You should be *deeply embarrassed for posting this
>>> kind of thing.* I don't see *an ounce of legitimate complaint* and
>>> nothing beyond *Java sucks, .NET rules*.
>>>
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