Very sensible indeed - you never know whether Echelon can read your mind too now. :-)
Btw, the answer to the original question is possibly not so difficult to find: has Google admitted to pass data to the US authorities ? Like the other corporates that is ? If so, then, well, make your own conclusions. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Joseph B. Ottinger <dreamr...@gmail.com>wrote: > THIS IS WHY I WEAR A hat made of tin foil and vast hair and slightly > malicious intent. That always foils the eyes on Verizon. > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > On June 27, 2013 5:44:30 PM "Fabrizio Giudici" < > fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it**> wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:38:40 +0200, Oscar Hsieh <zen...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > 1. If NSA has direct access to mail server, then SSL is not going to >> help >> > you (all major tech companies deny this and there is no reason to >> question >> > it) >> >> No reason? The whole NSA stuff was not known until the press made the >> scoop. So, why should I think that we know everything now? Perhaps tomorrow >> the press will make another scoop... >> >> > 2. If NSA has the private key then they can setup proxy and do men in >> the >> > middle attack. >> > 3. Or NSA can store the data first and then request for key to decrypt >> this >> > later (They have the ability to store data up to 30 days apparently). >> > >> > By the way, not sure any of you read the story about British >> Intelligence >> > taps directly into fiber optic networks >> > >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/**2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-** >> secret-world-communications-**nsa<http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa> >> >> And we learn this because we live in free countries with free spech and >> free press. Figure out what happens in other countries. >> >> >> -- >> Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. >> "We make Java work. Everywhere." >> http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/**blog <http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog>- >> fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Java Posse" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to >> javaposse+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/**group/javaposse<http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse> >> . >> For more options, visit >> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >> . >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > javaposse+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/javaposse<http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
