Those two threat vectors are not protected by a password system.  They
simply log in to your account, do a password reset, and update
accordingly.  Right?


On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:

> A nosy coworker or jealous girlfriend/boyfriend. Someone without much
> technical knowledge but with a little bit of evil will toward you. Someone
> who won't go to the extremes of breaking into your house but who might take
> advantage of an unlocked workstation or a lunch break to steal very
> valuable information from you.
>
> Safari gets it right, I'm betting Chrome will too very soon.
>
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>
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> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Josh Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think the question is what threat model would this protect against?
>> Seems their take (and at face value, hard to argue) is that it does not
>> actually add ANY security.  What are your arguments against?  (Any actual
>> threat vectors?)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Fabrizio Giudici <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I had this question in mind for some time to ask here, but so far I
>>> didn't because after all was a well known theme. But I see that the point
>>> has been reprised by Engadget, so I have the excuse of commenting its post
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>>         
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/**08/07/chrome-saved-passwords/<http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/07/chrome-saved-passwords/>
>>>         
>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/**item?id=6166731<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6166731>
>>>
>>> Key point: Chrome doesn't protect user passwords with a master key.
>>> Google says that, beyond the o.s. login, everything else is "just theater"
>>> and would provide "a false sense of security", encouraging "risky
>>> behaviour" by the user.
>>>
>>> With all the respect that I owe to Google and its engineers... may I
>>> humbly say that this sounds to me as supreme nonsense? It sounds as saying
>>> "listen, a fence is just theater as it takes ten seconds to be broken. So
>>> we didn't build any fence around our plant". Still, all the military bases
>>> I know have a fence as the first level of protection. I've never seen one,
>>> but I guess that Google data centers are protected by a fence too. Are
>>> those guys just stupid?
>>>
>>> Out of the metaphor: I've always understood that good security is made
>>> by a layer of things, the former ones could be even easily breachable, but
>>> they act as a first gross filter.
>>>
>>> Practically, I've learned Google's point a few weeks ago when I moved to
>>> Chromium. I applied their point, making sure that Google data are on an
>>> encrypted partition; and I've always taken care of my laptop, e.g. making
>>> sure that when I move the encrypted partition is unmounted. This of course
>>> to protect a whole bunch of data other than Chromium passwords. Still,
>>> sometimes you can get distracted for just a few seconds and I don't think
>>> it's human to ask people to lock the screen when they just turn around. A
>>> master password would just prevent the nearby co-worker from peeking his
>>> nose in such circumstances. Without master password, it's really a matter
>>> of seconds to get to the passwords.
>>>
>>> Your opinion?
>>>
>>>
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