Second Question:

+Kent Beck <https://plus.google.com/101480213822270107414>  I would really 
like to know how your view of the "Law of Demeter" compares to the 
following:

+David Heinemeier Hannson <https://plus.google.com/102352328760254046201>  
"pseudoscience" [1]
+Martin Fowler <https://plus.google.com/107610341080687821846>  "stepping 
stone towards co-locating behavior and data...not worth highlighting" [2]
+Nat Pryce <https://plus.google.com/116980585961649591298>  : "OO code that 
follows LoD is easier to understand and maintain" [3]
+Allen Holub <https://plus.google.com/109048760273586863436>  "the primary 
directive of OO systems" [4]

[1] RailsConf 2014 - Keynote: Writing Software by David Heinemeier Hansson 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LfmrkyP81M>
[2] http://martinfowler.com/bliki/TellDontAsk.html
[3] http://www.mockobjects.com/2006/10/tell-dont-ask-and-mock-objects.html
[4] http://tinyurl.com/ml3oss4 + 
http://www.drdobbs.com/testing/testing-oo-systems-part-1/240000411 

On Sunday, 1 June 2014 07:03:06 UTC+1, Philip Schwarz wrote:
>
> The panel (@martinFowler @KentBeck and @dhh) of the "Is TDD dead?" Google 
> Hangout https://plus.google.com/events/cco30ri6dpkej4h4d8mejmat98o have 
> invited spectators to put forward questions for the final part of the 
> debate. 
>
> IMHO It would be a shame if we missed the opportunity to ask them to talk 
> about "mocks returning mocks returning mocks" and the important points so 
> effectively described by @garybernhardt in "Test Isolation Is About 
> Avoiding Mocks" 
> https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/blog/2014/test-isolation-is-about-avoiding-mocks
> . 
>
> If the topic matters to you, how about putting forward your questions, so 
> there is a better chance of the topic being debated? 
>
> To propose a question, just click play on the video you see on the hangout 
> page.
>
> Philip Schwarz
>

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