Oh, I am *very* sorry about some misspelled words in my last message, but I never proofread it. But they could 'look' quite funny when using JAWS with any synthesizer. But Eloquence with JAWS or some other synthesizer is a very good proofreader, but only if the language used is supported like Finnish, for instance. But reading Finnish with American or Brittish English checked could be too funny to cope with, and that happened me while doing some Business English exercises for my present school, and I had to stop working for a while because of un-controlled laughing!
And finally: Should smileys bee used on that list at all, or do they only make the reading of messages more confusing? Or could they be replaced with something like <smile> or be totally avoided? But perhaps reading Finnish with English checked is too funny to describe with any smiley? Regards, Jyrki Voutilainen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jyrki Voutilainen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Cc: "Lauri Hallikainen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death etc. > Very many thanks to you, David Griffith, for your very helpful > information > below. > > I can tell you all that the blue screen problem is solved by that time > by > installing another display driver on the computer mentioned, but the > information you gave could be *very* helpful in a situation like that in > the future, and a also have plans to update my own laptop after > 3-4-year-usage of my present one, and I still hav a well-working desktop > here in my home office. > > I would -by the way - *never* use only a laptop, not even a good one, > for > all my work, but have a desktop-laptop-network instead. I workd maby two > years having only a laptop in usage, but that became very frustrating a) > because of lacking peripheral connections, b) because of unusable > integrated audio hardware in that particular model etc. And then there > is > the maintenance as a whole; in a desktop you can update almost every > single unit of the hardware if needed, but not in a laptop. But if > having > a well customized desktop in usage all the time, the problematic issues > in > your laptop aren't so hard to cope with, because you still have a > hopefully well-functioning computer in usage. But in the earlier days > having more than one computer in usage was more rare because of higher > hardware prices than nowadays. Today a well-funcioning basic desktop > unit > can be set up by approcimately 400 euros, but using the cheapest > hardware > parts. That unit could be used as a testing unit, for instance, and you > could still do your main work using your main unit built of better > components. Perhaps you still may prefer to use a separate soundcard or > display adapter instead of an integrated one etc. But why use any > expensive parts if the unit is beeing used for some test or server > purposes only? > > Have any of you - by the way - noticed any difference in JAWS's behavior > when using integrated soundcards and display adapters compared to using > separate ones? My friend mentioned is an audiophile and deals with > professional audio software, and he usis, of course, a separate > soundcard > like AVE64 or something like that, but I am not as much involved in that > than he is. But even I am using something else than basic loudspeakers > and > headphones in my setup. > > Best regards, > > Jyrki Voutilainen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death > > >> In ;my experience blue screen are more often than not Video driver >> issues. >> >> This can be very hard to correct and in the worst case scenarios I have >> had >> to reinstall windows itself to avoid these problems. >> >> Before this drastic step you could try the following. >> 1. Go to the web site of your video card manufacturer and download the >> latest driver and install this. You may have to repair or reinstall >> Jaws >> after this. Unfortunately some video driver setups and their websites >> may >> not be fully accessible and you may need sighted help but you could >> have >> a >> go. >> >> 2. If this does not work then reduce hardware acceleration on your >> video >> card to 80%. I have found Jaws works on my system at 80% but no lower >> and >> this can greatly reduce blue screen crashes. >> >> To reduce hardware acceleration on XP Pro >> >> 1. Go to Control Panel >> 2. Go to Display >> 3. Press Control Tab until you get to Settings Tab. >> 4. Tab until you get to Advanced. >> 5. Control Tab until you get to Troubleshooting page. >> 6. Press Tab until you hear Hardware Acceleration and "left right >> slider". >> 7. Use your left cursor key to reduce Hardware Acceleration to 80%. >> 7. Tab to OK and keep on pressing OK to close display settings. >> >> NB some video drivers insert their own troubleshooting tab under >> display >> but >> I have found it better to use the windows troubleshooting under the >> Advanced >> tab as described above. >> >> Can't guarantee it will work but it has helped me on some systems in >> the >> past. >> >> Regards >> >> David Griffith >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott >> Meyer >> Sent: 05 October 2007 01:42 >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death >> >> Hi >> When on ebay and arrowing down, more times than not I get Blue screen >> of >> Death and have to manually shutdown.I have a one year dell computer and >> when >> I was getting those MSN errors messages, I downloaded Dell driver >> tools >> as >> suggested and ran it with no effect. Updates are current. Message >> mention >> video's drivers conflict but a sighted person did not see any red >> conflict >> flags. >> Hope someone can help. >> Regards >> Scott >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> http://www.jaws-users.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To post to this group, send email to >> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >> subject >> or >> body of a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >> following address: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> __________ NOD32 2573 (20071005) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> http://www.jaws-users.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To post to this group, send email to >> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >> subject >> or body of a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >> following address: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > To post to this group, send email to > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php > If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
