Hi, Andrew. Isn't that key also used to make the accent mark? Since I can speak Spanish, I know about the tilde mark. I was just wondering if the grav key is used in other languages such as French and German. Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Head" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The grave key?
> This key is also used in some programs like windows live messenger and > scripts like J-tunes. Since this key isn't used very offten, script > developers assign other functions to work with that key. > from Andrew > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jewel Blanch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 3:57 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] The grave key? > > >> What use is it? >> >> Jewel >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Levine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:04 PM >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Telling what information is selected >> >> >> Hi, >> Jaws + Shift Key + Down Arrow tells what info is selected >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:12 PM >> Subject: JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 66, Issue 3 >> >> >>> Send JAWS-Users-List mailing list submissions to >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://mail.jaws-users.com/mailman/listinfo/jaws-users-list_jaws-users.com >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of JAWS-Users-List digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: CD burner Xp shows no data (Negoslav Sabev) >>> 2. Re: Dragon speak and jaws (Baracco, Andrew W) >>> 3. keynote and jaws and keynote speaking in digits >>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> 4. *****DISARMED***** goldwave part 7 tutorial (Rick Harmon) >>> 5. Strange JAWS keystroke? (James Scholes) >>> 6. Selecting Text (Patricia Dunbar) >>> 7. Re: Selecting Text (Larry Stansifer) >>> 8. Focus Problem JAWS 8/XP (Margaret Thomas) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:32:27 +0300 >>> From: "Negoslav Sabev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CD burner Xp shows no data >>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> I don't have an idea what to say. I use nero and have no problems. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Leonard Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CD burner Xp shows no data >>> >>> >>>> Just happens in this program. Does not happen with Sonic or windows >>>> media >>>> player. I just thought I would give the program a try. I have not >>>> given >>>> up >>>> yet. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Negoslav Sabev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:10 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CD burner Xp shows no data >>>> >>>> >>>>> Is this the first time it happens to you? What software do you use to >>>>> burn >>>>> cd/dvd? >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Leonard Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:49 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CD burner Xp shows no data >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Just tried that suggestion but unfortunately it still indicates 0 >>>>>> items. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Negoslav Sabev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:26 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CD burner Xp shows no data >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you eject the disc and put it back? Usually if you do this >>>>>>> you'll >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> able to see the data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Leonard Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:30 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] CD burner Xp shows no data >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I bet I am doing something wrong that is probably simple to fix. >>>>>>>>However, >>>>>>>>when I try to create a data cd containing MP3 files that I added the >>>>>>>>program says the CD burn was successful but the disc contains 0 >>>>>>>>data. >>>>>>>>When >>>>>>>>I look in properties for the disc it says 0 for data and free space. >>>>>>>>For >>>>>>>>those who use this program what do you think I am doing wrong? >>>>>>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>>>>>>> Address for the list archives: >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >>>>>>>> subject >>>>>>>> or body of a blank message to: >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>>>>>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> following address: >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>>>>>> Address for the list archives: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >>>>>>> subject >>>>>>> or body of a blank message to: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>>>>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> following address: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>>>>> Address for the list archives: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >>>>>> subject >>>>>> or body of a blank message to: >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>>>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to >>>>>> the >>>>>> following address: >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>>>> Address for the list archives: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >>>>> subject >>>>> or body of a blank message to: >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >>>>> following address: >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>>> Address for the list archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >>>> subject >>>> or body of a blank message to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >>>> following address: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:35:52 -0700 >>> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Dragon speak and jaws >>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> It is called JSAY. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scott >>> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:10 PM >>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Dragon speak and jaws >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know the program that allows those two to work together >>> Dragon speak and jaws >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>> Address for the list archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >>> or body of a blank message to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >>> following address: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:56:28 -0400 >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] keynote and jaws and keynote speaking in digits >>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Hi there: >>> Does anyone know how to set keynote with jfw so that jaws isn't speaking >>> digits instead of regular numbers? >>> thanks again >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:35:24 -0400 >>> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] *****DISARMED***** goldwave part 7 tutorial >>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Just finished up a 30 minute goldwave part 7 tutorial. It covers zoom >>> levels where I describe exactly what it means and how it effects the >>> markers and the play cursor. I show how to use the J, K, L keys to play >>> rapidly or slowly forward and backwards through a file. I also talk >>> about >>> new key shortcuts for the markers so you can quickly move them while >>> editing. I also talk about the keys used to play audio 3 seconds before >>> either marker and how to play audio forward from either marker. And >>> finally I talk about the tutorial mode in the newest scripts for GW. >>> >>> This is the first part that covers accessibility options being added >>> from >>> the developers of GW. So more to come as more is added and as I learn >>> more >>> about using all the new features. >>> >>> >>> direct download link: >>> >>> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/Audio/GoldwavePart7.mp3 >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> -- >>> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: >>> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >>> and my web Blog at: >>> http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> and reply to the confirmation msg. >>> >>> Contact info: >>> Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype - rharmon928 >>> MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> __._,_.___ >>> Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic >>> Messages | Polls | Members >>> -- >>> >>> Owner: Rick Harmon >>> Website Address: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >>> Blog Address: http://www.blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com >>> >>> Group Email Addresses: >>> >>> Post message: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Subscribe: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> List owner: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Groups >>> Balance your life >>> >>> by learning how to >>> >>> make smart choices. >>> . >>> >>> __,_._,___ >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:02:37 +0100 >>> From: "James Scholes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange JAWS keystroke? >>> To: "Blindtech mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Cc: Blind Cool Tech mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JFW >>> mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JAWS Users mailing list >>> <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Hi, I wanted to refresh the window, but accidentally pressed the control >>> key along with insert and escape, and JAWS announced, "Scripts >>> initialized". I checked the help, and this says, "For script development >>> only, re-initializes the default scripts et". What does this mean? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:12:17 -0500 >>> From: "Patricia Dunbar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text >>> To: "web jaws" <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Where is the key or whatever to turn on so jaws will say what is >>> selected >>> when that action is being performed? >>> I have compared my computer's jaws settings to my husband's computer and >>> cannot see anything different except on mine if I use the shift key to >>> select something jaws tells me I am selecting and if I copy it to the >>> clipboard Jaws tells me it is copied, but on his no such info is given. >>> We both use the same OS xp pro and same jaws 8. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Patricia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:48:48 -0600 >>> From: "Larry Stansifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text >>> To: "'Patricia Dunbar'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>> <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>> >>> Insert+Shift+DownArrow >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia >>> Dunbar >>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:12 PM >>> To: web jaws >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text >>> >>> >>> Where is the key or whatever to turn on so jaws will say what is >>> selected >>> when that action is being performed? >>> I have compared my computer's jaws settings to my husband's computer and >>> cannot see anything different except on mine if I use the shift key to >>> select something jaws tells me I am selecting and if I copy it to the >>> clipboard Jaws tells me it is copied, but on his no such info is given. >>> We >>> both use the same OS xp pro and same jaws 8. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Patricia >>> >>> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com >>> Address >>> for the list archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >>> or >>> body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >>> following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 168418212) is spam: >>> Spam: >>> https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=168418212&m=75e7004389ca&c=s >>> Not spam: >>> https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=168418212&m=75e7004389ca&c=n >>> Forget vote: >>> https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=168418212&m=75e7004389ca&c=f >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>> END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:11:21 -0400 >>> From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Focus Problem JAWS 8/XP >>> To: "jaws-users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> JAWS 8.0.2173, which I downloaded from the FS site, works much better >>> for me with Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F) in OE6 and is better behaved >>> with combo boxes in IE 7 than JAWS 7.1 did and I'd very much like to be >>> able >>> to use it instead of 7.1. However, 8.0.2173 doesn't seem to be focusing >>> in >>> OE and IE when I hit Control to stop speech the way it would with 7.1. >>> In >>> 7.1, focus would be placed almost exactly where I stopped speech, but in >>> 8.0.2173 focus is at least at the bottom of the page in IE 7 and way >>> below >>> where I stop speech in OE. For example, at >>> >>> http://www.stopyourekillingme.com/index.html >>> >>> when the page loads, if I hit Control when JAWS speaks the first "G" >>> link, >>> I >>> land on the copyright notice instead of the "G" link. If I >>> am reading a post from this list, for example, I land after the "Visit >>> the >>> JAWS Users List home page at:" part. >>> >>> My verbosity options are set for advanced and it's with XP Home with >>> SP >>> 2. I looked at the technical support notices on The FS site and old >>> posts >>> I'd saved about JFW 8 and I didn't see anything. Does anyone have any >>> ideas >>> on how to fix this focus problem in 8.0.2173? I thought a repair of >>> JAWS >>> might help, but it's still doing the same thing as before. >>> >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> End of JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 66, Issue 3 >>> ********************************************** >>> >> >> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> http://www.jaws-users.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To post to this group, send email to >> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >> or body of a blank message >> to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >> following address: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.4/1355 - Release Date: 1/04/08 >> 5:37 p.m. >> >> >> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> http://www.jaws-users.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To post to this group, send email to >> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >> or body of a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >> following address: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.6/1360 - Release Date: >> 4/04/2008 >> 6:02 PM >> >> > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > To post to this group, send email to > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php > If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]