A lot of sighted people, or that is, mostly computer "experts", prefer to have keystrokes. I haven't really bothred with Edge because I mostly love Firefox and find that it works great. However, it is indeed surprising if it's as unkeyboard-friendly as all that. The reason I say that is that Microsoft, more than anyone else, is usually really good with making sure everything is perfectly workable from the keyboard. They don't do this for blind users, necessarily, but of course it works out very well for us, too. Windows 10 is full of great keyboard tricks, and you'd really think Edge would follow suit. Ah well.
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net Sent: December 15, 2017 10:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws? If Edge had menus and worked completely with Jaws I might switch, same for Chrome. Firefox never worked well for me. Microsoft has to realize many of us use IE for its ease of use and they should fix the problems, not all of us love Edge and the fact that it has taken over two years since its release to make it somewhat accessible is reprehensible. No keystrokes available or let's say easily found to operate Edge in the same way is IE. Guessing isn't really something I want to take time to do. Every time a family member uses Edge here nothing reads and Yes, Jaws is set to read Edge. I dislike Edge partly because of lack of keystrokes I can get to easily, partly because in my experience it never works well and I don't want to have to type in the web address for every page I visit, if URLs were shorter maybe but I have loads of pages in favorites in IE, accessed with Alt A, nothing in Edge and no way that is visible or accessible that I have found to import or access without memorizing every URL I use, not happening. So, for now I stick with what works and yell at the computer when it hangs, become unhappy but at least 99% of what I need is right where I put it with keystrokes available if I happen to forget one. Maybe sighted people do not need menus, or keystrokes, I personally work best with a menu or even a ribbon. His is my opinion and your mileage will vary. Give me a super reason to use Edge including keeping my home page of my choice, a way to access sites without having to go to the run command and type in the full URL as Jonathan does on the podcasts, allow me the flexibility I experience 99% of the time in IE but without the crashes and I may move to using it. Chrome has many of the same issues as Edge, no menus, no visible keystrokes, it is a guessing game and I don't usually have time to play three guesses and none of them count. Accessibility, great for those who can see the screen even with magnification in each browser, not so great for those of us who depend on Jaws alone because we can't get clues from the screen any other way and why it has taken more than two years to do a halfway job of fixing this, leaving all the fixes to third parties who can't get where they need to make it fast and easy is a point against Microsoft! Accessibility seems to rule, only if you can somewhat see the screen. Rant over Rose rosecomb...@cox.net -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws? What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security gaps that are within IE. IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the latest changes that are much more relevant. Nate Kile, Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools Also Private training to your needs 907-444-3707 Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jones Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws? Hello again, Revisiting an old question. Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way it is now interacting with Jaws? Is there a fix that the developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue? I have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it better?" Thanks in advance for the input. Judy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
