Sorry mate, I don't understand that last comment fully. Are you saying, those depending on narrator should give jaws away? If that was what you meant. I would say no, because jaws is a much better screen reader than Narrator. Narrator is only a basic one. As I said before, I only use Narrator when jaws freezes or something. I go and try to figure out what the problem is, and restart jaws. Once jaws is restarted, I exit narrator. If I haven't answered your question properly, I'm sorry. from Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "kk." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
> Then I would say, those who are depending on it, should give jaws away > yes? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Head" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? > > >>I agree with you. The only reason I can think of is as I said, to provide >>it >> as a temporary solution if another screen reader decides to give us the >> silent treatment. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "kk." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >> >> >>> Can I ask, why do they bother with it, when jaws is fully functional? it >>> doesn't make sense to me. The voice is disgusting, and I wouldn't use it >>> at >>> all. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew Head" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:20 PM >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>> >>> >>>> Hi KK, >>>> Narrator is a separate screen reader provided by microsoft. However, >>>> microsoft themselves recommend it is only to be used as a temporary >>>> screen >>>> reader. I have only used it when jaws has stopped working and all I >>>> have >>>> done with narrator is to try and get jaws back. After that, I've closed >>>> it. >>>> Each time I've loded Narrator, I've recieved the spoken message which >>>> basically says Narrator is not a fully functional screen reader and you >>>> would do better to use something different. >>>> I personally don't like the voices in narrator either. I'm not bashing >>>> narrator, just saying pointing out that really, it's true and better to >>>> use >>>> jaws or something else. >>>> from Andrew >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "kk." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:00 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Could someone please explain to me what the narrator does and how does >>>>> it >>>>> compare or work with jaws please? first time I realised there was such >>>>> a >>>>> thing. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Donald Marang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 8:41 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I currently have 9 choices available in Vista. I had used the extra >>>>>>CD >>>>>>that >>>>>> came with JAWS to install other SAPI5 voices. I believe that the >>>>>> voices >>>>>> that I installed were the Real Speak voices from Scansoft. Karen >>>>>> (Australian) is my chosen default. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don Marang >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "mattias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:01 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> nope vista have only one >>>>>>> named anna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>>>>>> Fran: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Devona Abel >>>>>>> Skickat: den 8 augusti 2008 20:03 >>>>>>> Till: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> Amne: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have xp you have to put up with Sam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for now so do I. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, vista has more then one voice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Devona >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Mike & Barbara >>>>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:05 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Devona, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It comes in handy in a pinch. Like if I am having a problem with >>>>>>> Jaws. >>>>>>> would you happen to have directions on how to change Sam's voice to >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> one that you are willing to share? If you do, I and many others >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> truly >>>>>>> appreciate it. Thank you very much. Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Devona Abel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:54 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why would you want Sam anyway? >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Mike & Barbara >>>>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:25 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jitendra, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the voices work except Microsoft Sam. This is the message I >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> arrow to MS Sam below. The voices that are there are SAPI >>>>>>> voices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speech Properties >>>>>>> This voice cannot be played. Please try selecting another voice >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> selecting a different audio output device. >>>>>>> OK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks much. Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Jitendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:53 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, try running narrator while another screen-reader like >>>>>>> jaws >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> running, and tell the error comes. >>>>>>> another thing to be noted: narrator has only 2 files: >>>>>>> narrator.exe >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> narhook.dll so no easy chance to corruption, so go into your >>>>>>> speech >>>>>>> settings in ctrl panel, >>>>>>> on the text-to-speech page, see if the voices installed are >>>>>>> speaking >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> not, when you arrow up or down to select one, >>>>>>> if not, talk back to me. >>>>>>> Thank you, Jitendra. >>>>>>> Skype: Jeet.delhi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>>>>>> Visit the Blind Computing home page at: >>>>>>> http://www.blind-computing.com >>>>>>> Address for the list archives: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >>>>>>> subject >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> body of a blank message to: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>>>>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> following address: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com >>>>>>> Visit the Blind Computing home page at: >>>>>>> http://www.blind-computing.com >>>>>>> Address for the list archives: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >>>>>>> subject >>>>>>> or body of a blank message to: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >>>>>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> following address: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>> Checked by AVG - 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Release Date: >>> 8/08/2008 >>> 9:02 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> http://www.jaws-users.com >> Visit the Blind Computing home page at: >> http://www.blind-computing.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To post to this group, send email to >> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >> or body of a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the >> following address: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > To post to this group, send email to > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php > If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - 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