Actually I tried to run a pdf file scanned without OCR recognition (which
jaws identifies as empty document) with OP14 and it did not work. The
program starts to load the image file, but as soon as the recognition
process begins, it stops and I get a blank screen; OP does not seem to
detect the underlying text if OCR is not used from the beginning.
Samira


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If OCR hadn't been turned on in the beginning of the process, Omnipage by 
itself could probably OCR the image files if needed: then you could read the

PDF's with JAWS, although the OCR mightn't be as good.

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Our department purchased an HP copier model 9055 (I think) with a scanning
package added; the copier/scanner is connected to all computers in the dept
and I have OmniPage on my computer; but JAWS reads pdf without further OCR
process if the "recognize text with OCR" is turned on; in other words, OP is
not needed.

Samira


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What make and model of scanner  and what scanning software are you using?

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The reason JAWS reads it as a blank document is because whoever scanned the
document forgot to turn on the 'recognize text with OCR" button. When I want
a hard copy scanned as pdf, I give my student worker the following
instructions:

1. place copy on scanner
2. open Adobe Acrobat
3. go to file menu (alt f)
4. down arrow to "create pdf" submenu and then right arrow
5. choose the source of scan, in this case choose "from scanner...." 6. you
are in a dialog box with combo boxes and radio buttons: a. choose scanner b.
choose front or both sides c. check "recognize text with OCR" (default
setting but sometimes other users may turn it off) d. settings.... choose
the settings you want e. check the button that says "add tags improves
accessibility for disabled users. f. press enter on the scan button.

The resulting PDF file should be readable with JAWS.

Best,
Samira

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] "Alert document is empty"

Hi folks,

I recently received a PDF document and when I attempted to open it I
received the following message:  "Alert document is empty." Undaunted by
Jaws inability to recognize certain PDF formatting  I proceeded to open it
in note pad as a TXT file and received a blank screen with Jaws simply
sounding top and bottom alert. Would it be safe to assume that because I
receive no information using either file format that the document is in fact
empty and I need to have the document resent?

TNX

Larry
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