Actually I tried to run a pdf file scanned without OCR recognition (which jaws identifies as empty document) with OP14 and it did not work. The program starts to load the image file, but as soon as the recognition process begins, it stops and I get a blank screen; OP does not seem to detect the underlying text if OCR is not used from the beginning. Samira
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] "Alert document is empty" If OCR hadn't been turned on in the beginning of the process, Omnipage by itself could probably OCR the image files if needed: then you could read the PDF's with JAWS, although the OCR mightn't be as good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Farwaneh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] "Alert document is empty" Our department purchased an HP copier model 9055 (I think) with a scanning package added; the copier/scanner is connected to all computers in the dept and I have OmniPage on my computer; but JAWS reads pdf without further OCR process if the "recognize text with OCR" is turned on; in other words, OP is not needed. Samira -----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] "Alert document is empty" What make and model of scanner and what scanning software are you using? -----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S Farwaneh Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] "Alert document is empty" The reason JAWS reads it as a blank document is because whoever scanned the document forgot to turn on the 'recognize text with OCR" button. When I want a hard copy scanned as pdf, I give my student worker the following instructions: 1. place copy on scanner 2. open Adobe Acrobat 3. go to file menu (alt f) 4. down arrow to "create pdf" submenu and then right arrow 5. choose the source of scan, in this case choose "from scanner...." 6. you are in a dialog box with combo boxes and radio buttons: a. choose scanner b. choose front or both sides c. check "recognize text with OCR" (default setting but sometimes other users may turn it off) d. settings.... choose the settings you want e. check the button that says "add tags improves accessibility for disabled users. f. press enter on the scan button. The resulting PDF file should be readable with JAWS. Best, Samira -----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] "Alert document is empty" Hi folks, I recently received a PDF document and when I attempted to open it I received the following message: "Alert document is empty." Undaunted by Jaws inability to recognize certain PDF formatting I proceeded to open it in note pad as a TXT file and received a blank screen with Jaws simply sounding top and bottom alert. Would it be safe to assume that because I receive no information using either file format that the document is in fact empty and I need to have the document resent? 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