Hi Kate,
You can turn off (ignore) Flash in configuration manager:html options:misc
tab: check the ignore flash check box.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beyond Surf's Up: Need tips foradvanced
real-worldsurfing
Hi, could you tell me how to turn off flash? I like to have it for
websites like youtube but I have to say it can become somewhat of a
nuisence otherwise. I'd like to know how to control it better.
Thanks,
Kate> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:36:54 -0800> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beyond
Surf's Up: Need tips for advanced real-worldsurfing> > Hi,> I understand
your frustration. To help clean-up the screen make sure that > Inline
frames are turned off, and maybe turn off flash content. More >
restrictive searches really can also help. I also find that a links list >
can speed up your web navigation especially with sites containing hundreds
> of links. My few words of help may not add very much, but I am on the
same > page with you.> Roger> ----- Original Message ----- > From:
"Deborah Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To:
<jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:06
PM> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Beyond Surf's Up: Need tips for advanced >
real-worldsurfing> > > >I am an experienced user, so I'm looking for tips
more than perfect> > solutions.> >> >> >> > Do any of you others have this
problem? Web pages seem to be getting less> > convenient. I'm not talking
about inaccessible. You can read everything > > fine> > -- just
inconvenient. Kind of like putting the wheelchair ramp out back > > with>
> the dumpsters instead of near the building's front door.> >> >> >> > It
used to be that when I googled for information, I'd find a variety of> >
mailing list archives with interesting posts. Or I'd find pages that> >
individuals created about that particular topic. But today, I tend
instead> > to find wikis and web forums, and sites with so many ads that I
have to > > read> > hundreds of lines of irrelevant data only to discover
a single line of> > content, like "no search results matched your query"!>
>> >> >> > In wikis, half the links you select go to a page, with the same
pleuthora > > of> > links and the message: "You have followed a link to a
page that does not> > exist yet." If it doesn't exist, why do links take
me there, anyway? I'd> > feel more charitable about contributing to a
wiki, if they didn't insist > > on> > wasting my time!> >> >> >> > For
another example, web forums will have more lines of text devoted to> >
trivia about who the user is, how many times he's posted, and when he > >
joined> > the forum and whether he's online, rather than what content his
message> > contains. And often the post turns out to be something like "I
need the > > same> > information" or "That's a good idea." This is the
sort of thing you might> > say on the phone to a friend, but wasting
bandwidth posting it seems > > really> > nuts.> >> >> >> > Ad-supported
sites don't seem to have any simple way to skip to the > > content> >
directly. For a good example, just look at amazon.com. If they hadn't> >
invented amazon.com/access, I would've stopped shopping at amazon a long>
> time ago. But ten years ago, way before JAWS had quick keys, amazon was
a> > pleasure to navigate with screen access! And it worked fine without
any> > fancy virtual cursor!> >> >> >> > Web forums are a nightmare. Every
forum page has a list of posting rules,> > thread tools and other clutter
that I wish were in one place and not on> > every single page. I don't
want to reply, change my font size or submit > > the> > post to digg -- I
just want to READ the darned thing! I don't care if> > smileys are on, and
how many cups of coffee the user had, I want to know> > what he has to
say!> >> >> >> > Yet, other blind people are regularly accessing these
things and not> > complaining, so what am I missing? For example, the
Hadley School for the> > Blind and the AFB both have active web forums.
There is a JAWS wiki, > > though> > the only thing I could actually find
in it was a list of JAWS mailing > > lists.> > And many blind people put
up blogs on sites full of advertising! And even> > with blind bloggers'
sites, you have to skip past reams of the irrelevant!> >> >> >> > I am
familiar with the quick keys for surfing of course. But they rarely> >
work in this Brave New Web-world. On websites devoted to product reviews >
> and> > downloads, using H or number keys to move between headings takes
me to> > headings with words like "recommended" "other categories" and
"download"> > only it's a link to download something I'm not interested
in. Try the > > winamp> > page for example -- it's easy to download a
trial version of the > > commercial> > product by mistake.> >> >> >> > On
wikis, headings only appear if the user who edited that page added the> >
appropriate HTML code. There are lots of links, visited and unvisited > >
links> > and many promising other page elements you can quick-key around.
But most > > of> > those wiki-links lead nowhere. It's like being in one
of those> > text-adventure mazes! You are enticed by promises of
cattegories, but how> > can you tell which lead to only empty pages? I had
planned to contribute > > to> > the JAWS wiki but after spending fifteen
minutes and finding nothing, I> > decided that a well-written contribution
belonged elsewhere!> >> >> >> > And on web forums, it is rare to see a
heading at all. In blogs, you see> > headings only if the blogger is a
screen reader user, and even then not > > all> > the time. I guess some of
the readers have more patience than I do.> >> >> >> > Typing N to navigate
to the next non-link text, usually takes me to an ad. > > I> > can learn
all about increasing my sex appeal or how to get a stuffed > > gorilla> >
absolutely free, but it's not the way to learn about a particular product>
> I'm researching. Often a page will have a full and fascinating product>
> review, but I actually have to read the entire text to locate it.> >> >>
>> > Typing M to go to the next frame is equally useless. It jumps between
more> > ad frames and skips any content the page might contain.> >> > And
that's a big might. It feels like I could read for hours before > >
actually> > reading any real information. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I am
surprised to> > find a large hunk of information nestled among the google
ad frames and > > the> > invitations to create teknurati tags. But
sometimes, all that web page> > structure is there, but content is not.>
>> >> >> > I've tried lots of other quick keys too -- O for object
elements, d for > > next> > different element, L for lists, I for
individual elements etc. I know > > basic> > HTML, so I'm ahead of many
JAWS users, but how should I know what sort of> > HTML was used to create
any particular page? The JAWS quick keys help when> > reviewing content
I'm familiar with, but if I'm familiar with it, I often> > don't need to
review it!> >> >> >> > The keystrokes for navigating form controls are
useful when I'm done> > researching -- actually buying something. I do
appreciate the hard work > > that> > has gone in to making it easy to
navigate a web page with structure. But > > it> > feels like these new web
pages lack structure. In a forum for example, > > there> > appears to be
no element you can navigate to position your virtual cursor > > at> > the
top of the text of an actual post.> >> >> >> > Yet there must be some sort
of structure. My husband, who is sighted can> > quickly find information,
and he certainly doesn't read the entire page to> > do it. When asked to
analyze his process he says that he skips past the> > menus and toolbars
and ads. Why can't this work so well for us JAWS> > users?Why do all these
great commands for skimming past unwanted material> > work best on web
pages designed by or for blind people?> >> >> >> > And more important, how
do the rest of you JFW users surf for information,> > without it consuming
your entire life? I work full-time, I sleep, I'm a> > homemaker, I try to
fit in some exercise. I want to be able to fix an > > audio> > problem on
my PC, research the appropriateness of a video for my little> > nephew,
find a good recipe using arugula, or locate a good mexican> > restaurant
in Indianapolis. And I want a simple search like this to not> > consume an
entire night! The question is what am I missing?> >> >> >> > --Debee> >> >
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