Thanks Donald,

Nice to see that it's not just me.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Windows Media Player


I had not tried ripping a CD yet with Windows Media Player until I got your
message.  Unless I am tabbing into the list, I only hear the  title and
artist as well.

Normally, I can press Insert + F2 and select "Customize List View".  This
utility should let you select which columns you want spoken, their order,
and if you want the heading spoken.  You can even provide custom text spoken
for each heading.  Unfortunately, JAWS seems to ignore this while moving up
or down in this list!I can hear all of this information and the status of
the checkbox for the selected item, if I press Insert + Tab!  A little
awkward, but very informative.

Don Marang


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack" <jlow...@neo.rr.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Windows Media Player


> OK, my apologies for the rant.  So, allow me to rephrase my post.  There
> are
> something like 13 columns that are visible when ripping an audio CD with
> media player 11.  Jaws only recognizes 2 of those tabs.  Those being the
> song title and artist name.  In previous versions of Jaws, more of these
> columns were visible.  Is there some trick to getting Jaws to recognize
> the
> other columns?
> Jack
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Moderator" <modera...@jaws-users.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Windows Media Player
>
>
> Hi Jack,
> I didn't say that you hadn't written them,
> my point was that as the guidelines clearly state,
> if you have a problem with FS, or, rant, as you say,
> then take it up with them instead of posting it here.
> This particular aspect of the thread is done.
> If you want to discuss it further, you have my e-mail address to contact
> me
> off-list.
> For all members, help will come quicker if it is in the form of a
> question,
> and not as a rant,
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> blind-comput...@jaws-users.com
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack" <jlow...@neo.rr.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 6:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Windows Media Player
>
>
> First, who said that I haven't written to FS about this.  Second, this
> group
> is a place to come for help and suggestions, right?  I thought I was
> utilizing the list for it's proper purpose.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Windows Media Player
>
>
> Hi Jack,
> If you would like to see FS address this issue,
> then why don't you aim this message to them?
>
> Richard Q. Justice-website owner
> www.blind-computing.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack" <jlow...@neo.rr.com>
> To: "JAWS Users Group" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:14 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Windows Media Player
>
>
> I hope no one minds, but I have a mild rant about JAWS 10 and Windows
> Media
> Player.  Specifically, how Jaws reads the list of tracks on a CD.  Out of
> all the versions of Jaws I've used, this one is the least user friendly
> when
> it comes to the information provided from CD's track list.  A couple
> complaints.
> 1.  Jaws doesn't read the track number.  It only reads the title/artist
> info.
> 2. As you arrow down the list of tracks, it does not announce the check
> boxes that indicate what tracks have    been extracted from the CD.
> 3. when ripping, Jaws will announce the current track being ripped over
> and
> over again until it's done extracting that track.  And hitting control
> doesn't make it stop.  I'm guessing that the current track being extracted
> is flashing thus causing Jaws to announce it over and over again.
> 4.  There is all kinds of useful info about the CD being extracted that's
> shown in several columns in the Windows Media Player Primary list view
> window.  But for some unknown reason, Jaws will only read the information
> in
> the first 2 columns.  That being song title/artist.  All the other columns
> are ignored.
> I've even gone into the options menu where it says, check the columns you
> want visible.  It doesn't make any difference.  Jaws will only read the
> first two columns.  From left to right all the columns are,
> album header bar, rip status header bar, title header bar, length header
> bar, contributing artist header bar, composer header bar.
>
> Now, you do have the ability to pick what columns you want visible, and in
> what order you want them shown.  But none of this makes any difference.
> Jaws will only read the title/artist, and that is all.
> Is there some setting in Jaws that I've overlooked to et it to see all
> these
> headers?  I've been using Jaws and WMP for 10 years.  As far as Jaws is
> concerned, this is the least user friendly version I've seen where windows
> media player is concerned.
> Sorry for the rather lengthy post.  I hope that FS will address this in a
> future release of Jaws.
> Jack
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