To add to Brian's message:

Microsoft's new plug-in to save as PDF seems to work fairly well. I have not put it through it's paces yet. It claims to create accessible documents. It does have a few options, such as create PDF bookmarks automatically using either Word bookmarks or headings. I was surprised, however, that the Word styles like "Heading level 1" and so on were not recognized by JAWS in the Acrobat Reader as headings. I am glad to see Microsoft move in this direction! They also seem to allow saving in Open Office format.

Don Marang


----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lee" <brianl...@charter.net>
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Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:01 AM
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Hello,

Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export Word documents to PDF files. You can do a custom install and only install Writer if you don't want the other programs in the suite installed. When you pick customize you will be presented with a tree view of components. You can press spacebar on each one to choose to have the given component installed or not enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on level 0 checked, but the programs listed on level 1 can be installed or left out of the installation. After installing Writer, you should run the JAVA accessibility bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and then restart your system.

When you open a Word document in Writer or when you create a document, open the file menu and use down arrow to the export choice. PDF will be a choice. In the next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" choice. use a left mouse button click simulation on the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the button to proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job tagging, as I use the accessibility version of Acrobat and there was no tagging needed for the exported PDF file.

If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install the SaveAsPDFAndXPS plug-in from Microsoft and then you can save as PDF in the normal Save As dialog.

Take care.

Brian Lee
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Stimson" <ma...@accessingenuity.com>
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Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM
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Hello all,

I just wanted to share my experience these tools.  I tried the
www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf.
Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged
and thus not accessible.  To be a little "techie", the difference is that
Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion
from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging.  Whereas, Zamzar uses
another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which
does not covert to tags.

I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first
thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004.  This is
problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible
PDFs where not really in the market then.  When I tried to open the
installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the
error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted".  The other
problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So,
it looks like GhostWord is not an option.

If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of
for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know.

Thanks! Mark

Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
Document Accessibility Specialist
www.DocumentAccessibility.com
www.AccessIngenuity.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's

Hello Robert,

There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF.  There is no
charge for the service.  It is usually quite fast and takes only a few
minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to
the person who uploaded the file to be converted.  The site is
www.zamzar.com

There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft Office

2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs
as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other
formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not
tried it and I don't know how well it works.  However, I have used
www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert kingett" <kingettb...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's


how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word
2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it
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