This is why a totally blind person can't function independently as a
computer tech.  They can only access the machine when they have speech
or Braille, and they only have speech or Braille when the OS is running.

Andy


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Darrin
Porter
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:11 AM
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thestart up screen?

Interesting bit of trivia:

I knew a guy back in the late 80's and 90's who was the IT guy for a
relatively large company.  He was totally blind and used a device called
a Spequalizer to access his users' computers.  This was a hardware
device that plugged into a parallel port and could access most things
about computers, way more than the early versions of JAWS, ASAP,
Vocalize, etc.  It would have been nice if this technology would have
been further developed.
Someone who could develop this kind of access tool could and would
easily corner the screen access market.  Not to be too negative, but
I've always felt that the screen reader developers in general have
always been too focused on forcing their software to work with specific
programs and not focused enough on developing algorithms that would make
more software universally accessable.

I challenge anyone to randomly download shareware, freeware, etc. that
does something that you are interested in doing.  I'll be willing to bet
that 95 out of 100 programs will not work with your screen reader of
choice or, best case, partially work.

Darrin



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Anything done in BIOS would have to be sent to a third party machine for
either brail or speech output. The reason for that is no device drives
are present in cmos only video, keyboard and mouse. Now there use to be
a few working on speech and print output. But they got told by orgs they
asked money from that blind computer tech's would never be. You have to
have sight to work on computers to see what your doing. So they quit and
locked up all materials for said project. The most interesting part is I
know more blind in the box tech's then sighted, and those orgs? Well
they don't do much except keep the prices of equipment for the blind as
high as possible.
There is a asuse board and a gigabit board that is suppose to have boot
speech, but it just tells you the post boot and no BIOS.

At 07:56 AM 9/7/2012, you wrote:
>Although I would have no idea how, it seems with today's technology 
>there would be some type self powered device that could be plugged into

>a computer to allow us blind folks to read screens prior to a Window's 
>boot, especially in the BIOS
>
>Al
>
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>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthaneelf
>Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:01 PM
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>before the start up screen?
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>it was/is sort of possible but the items that enabled me to do this 
>several windows versions back is quickly disappearing, and although I 
>think its possible to put together something that could handle this, it

>has not been done as of yet!
>
>sorry,
>inthane
>
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>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Norman 
>King
>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:43 AM
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>before thestart up screen?
>
>Hi.
>Not possible as far as I know.
>
>
>
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>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Debbie 
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>Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:30 PM
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>the start up screen?
>
>Hi, Someone asked me a question, and I thought someone here would have 
>an answer. They would like to know how to access the information on the

>screen before the start up sounds  or JAWS gives the start up prompt.
>
>Does anyone know if this is possible? they are using Windows7 and I 
>think JAWS 13 Thank you in advance
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