Absolutely, you should be able to get away with your OS drive being an SSD and 
just leave that free for apps such as JAWS and Microsoft Office etc.
If you have a 64gb drive, it will be a push in my experience but a 120gb ssd 
should do the drive nicely.


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: 22 July 2015 18:11
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd

What I was referring to is the metadata causes slower read/write performance in 
the SSD drive; I didn't mean to imply that it made SSD's slower than mechanical 
drives, which is not the case.

But, the cost-per-megabyte ratio still may not be worth it except for a smaller 
SSD to store the OS on.

The only drawbacks on those 2TB external drives that Londa refers to are they 
are almost all 5400RPM and have the limitation of USB 3.0 at best for transfer 
speeds.  So, the better solution if you have a desktop at least is to put a 
second mechanical drive in an available bay and use it for your programs and 
data.
Just use the SSD for Windows and frequently-used programs.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: Londa Peterson
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd


I agree. I don't think you could pay me to go back to a mechanical drive inside 
the computer. I have SSD's on my Lenovo laptop and on my desktop at work. Our 
home desktop is still mechanical, and most of my clients still use mechanical 
drives. I definitely notice the difference. The only drawback is that you can't 
get a really large amount of storage yet on an SSD. I solved that by getting a 
2 TB external that is powered off my usb port. It's about the size of a 
coaster, so it's extremely portable. This arrangement works really well for me, 
and I don't think I'll ever go back.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 4:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd

Much much faster!

On my I5 CPU for example, I can install Windows 7 from fresh with an unattended 
script in around ten minutes.


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: 21 July 2015 19:05
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd

My understanding from my grandson was that solid state drives were faster.

Remember, life is what you make it,

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd


> tRick is right, he old theory is you don't defrag a solid-state drive.
> Since they are solid-state--just like memory in a computer or an SD
> card--by definition, all the data lies contiguously with each other.
> Therefore, there is no need and can only result in harm in defraging a
> solidstate drive.
>
> But, there is a type of defrag done by Windows 7 and 8 as well, which
> is an intelligent hard-drive defrag  if you have system restore
> running.  It is part of the functionality of volume shadowing; there
> is a lot of metadata that the SSD must store for file management and
> more metadata means slower read/write performance.  From what I
> understand, when data is deleted, there are trim commands that are
> stored because a solid-state drive has to copy the data elsewhere before 
> writing to that NAND cell.
>
> The basic recommendation on sites like HowToGeek is to avoid programs
> that claim to have algarithms for defragging solid-state drives as
> they are unnecessary and tne type of trimming and defragging is
> handled by the operating system.
>
> in Windows 7 and 8
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Justice
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd
>
>
> Hi Kevin,
> Actually, there seems to be some debate over whether they should be
> defragged or not, so I'll just say, in my opinion, I don't defrag
> SSD's because that creates a lot of unnecessary writes to the drive,
> which in turn shortens the overall life of the drive.
> And the way the data is written to the drive, it doesn't seem to
> result in any real benefit.
> Yes, a flash drive is solid state, but some computers, especially the
> old net books can have solid-state drives containing the operating system.
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Lee" <klee...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd
>
>
> but as I stated in the new version of auslogics disc defrag there is a
> selection to defrag them
>
> I guess a ssd is a flash drive!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Justice
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd
>
> Hi Kevin,
> "SSD", solid-state drive.
> You do not defrag these.
> Defragging is for mechanical drives only.
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Lee" <klee...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:40 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] defragment ssd
>
>
> I downloaded the new version of auslogics disc defrag and noticed a
> new entry in the defrag list.
> what am I doing when I defragment ssd?
> Email is golden!!!
> Kevin Lee
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