Hi Annette,
I have the same problems with Excel, even with the latest update of JAWS. I have done the exact process as you did by copying and pasting into Notepad. When formulas are that long, JAWS only reads up to a point for me as well. I am not sure what the answer is or why JAWS behaves that way. Let me know how Excel works for you with the new update of JAWS. I do not use Excel nearly as much as I did when I was in school. Take care, Annette.


-----Original Message----- From: Annette Carr
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Hi,

If I have a small amount of information in a cell, JAWS will read the
information when I use F2.  Since most of my formulas are over 100
characters long, that is when I find the problem.  Sometimes I can use F2,
then Control+home to move to the beginning of the cell contents and read up
to a certain point.  After that , JAWS just announces "blank".  I can select
all, copy and paste into NotePad.  Once the change has been made I select
all copy and paste back into the cell where I've deleted the previous
contents.

I'm also having problems with JAWS reading the drop down menus in the Sort
dialog box, and the drop down lists in my actual spreadsheet.  I've updated
my JAWS to the latest build, now I just need to test it out with Excel.

Annette


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 5:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Hi Annette,
I opened up a new Excel page and typed in some text in each cell. I did the
F2 key and it worked fine on my pc running the latest version of Jaws and
Excel 2010. If you open a new Excel and put something in the cells and then
try the F2 key does it work then? Just wondering if it is something to do
with the Excel sheet you are trying to do this in. Second thing the Excel
sheet you are trying to use is not in protective mode is it. Just drawing
straws for ideas.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, I make sure it is maximized.  I just updated my personal machine to the
Latest build of JAWS and I am waiting for a sample spreadsheet to arrive in
my mailbox.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Have you maximized the Excel window? That's usually my problem.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Carr" <amca...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.

Annette



-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?

Annette

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid.
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )


Jonathan Cohn

On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr <amca...@verizon.net> wrote:

The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width
has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual
column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.
If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my
sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each
one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a
very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that
size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.

Annette


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Carr" <amca...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


The JAWS cursor did not read anything more then with the PC cursor and
the arrow keys.

My work around today was

Use F2 to get into the formula in the cell Select All and copy Paste
the cell contents into notepad Make the corrections Copy and paste the
corrected formula back into the cell.


Annette

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Hi Annette,
When you have the pc cursor on the formula have you tried routing the
Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and then right arrowing across the
formula. Just a thought. I know that works on reading numbers in a
cell without having to use the F2 key.
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Hi All,



I am using JAWS17 on a Windows7 machine with Excel2010.  The problem
I'm about to describe did exist when using JAWS16, but if I was
persistent, I could eventually get JAWS to read the information I
needed.  Here is what is going on.



.         JAWS will only read a portion of my formula from the beginning
to
some place in the middle.  The formula is 179 characters plus 6
spaces.  It used to be that if I used various navigational commands
inside the cell, I could evidentially read the formula.  Now with
JAWS17, It is just not happening.

.         When setting up a custom sort I cannot get JAWS to read the
contents of the various drop down lists.  It used to be that if I
opened the list, arrowed to where I thought the criteria was that I
wanted, tab away from the drop down list and then back to it, when I
opened it the second time I could hear what I has selected previously.
If it was not what I wanted I would repeat my game of roulette until I
landed on my desired choice.  Now if I manage to get JAWS to read
something, it continues to read some random value from the list.



Is anyone else having these issues?  Does anyone have any ideas for
work arounds?  I hope to have time Friday to call FS, but in the
meantime, it would be really nice to be able to get this task off of
my
desk at work.



Thanks,

Annette



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