Jim, Can I really run 8.3 on my Mothers phone? She still has the push 
button wall phone. Does not even have a screen on it.

Richard Kann

Jim Idle wrote:
>
> Please. No, I really mean it. Please, read this before posting to the 
> group.
>
>  
>
> *How to Post to the Group*
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> This page is designed to help you pose a question or send a comment to 
> the jBASE discussion group. Please read this through once as if you 
> are new to the group and make your first post without doing so, you 
> are likely to make a mistake. This mistake will be obvious to all and 
> they will grumble at you, or worse still, probably laugh at you. It 
> isn't very long, and you need only read it once. 
>
> *Unwritten Rules (which are now written down)*
>
>     * The first thing to mention is that the group has become a mix of
>       people working with jBASE because they work at a bank using T24,
>       and those that are using jBASE because I (or someone like me, no
>       wait... someone working at jBASE), talked them in to it.
>
>       All users of jBASE in whatever capacity are welcome here, but if
>       you want to post a question that is SPECIFICALLY about T24, such
>       as /"How do I print a contract ID"/, then please note the banner
>       at the bottom of every post to this group and start the subject
>       with the word *T24:*. There seems to be some confusion over
>       this, and of course if you joined the list then made your first
>       post 10 minutes later, you might miss it.
>
>       So, what this means is that if your question is something like
>       /"When I press menu entry 7, it deletes all my FOREX
>       transactions."/ then you have a question about *T24* itself and
>       should start the subject of your post with *T24:*. This allows
>       the jBASE users that are not interested in T24 menus to ignore
>       the post. Perhaps some people are too scared to want to know
>       what kind of things are going on with their money inside banks,
>       or perhaps they have other things to do. So, PLEASE take note of
>       the banner and if in doubt, just put *T24:* at the start of the
>       subject. If you forget the [ and ] then nobody will complain,
>       but try to remember them because it allows people to set up
>       email filters easily. Other than this, ask any question you like.
>     * When you post a question, remember that the readers don't know
>       that you are running jBASE 8.3 beta on a Google application
>       server on your Mother's telephone and that all the passwords are
>       set to /42/. Hence you will receive better guidance if you
>       supply some information about the hardware, software and bugware
>       you are experiencing problems with. jBASE comes with a nice
>       utility that tells you (well, tells people that know what the
>       output means) lots of interesting things about the software.
>       This program does not give out any information that people could
>       feasibly use to hack your system.
>
>       If you run the program '*jdiag*' at a command shell, it will
>       print out a set of information that you can copy and paste at
>       the end of your post. Also, mention your hardware and so on if
>       it seems at all relevant to your question; it won't harm to
>       mention it even if it doesn't seem relevant. Of course, by
>       mention, I don't mean "Our hardware came in a very attractive
>       blue box and the power supply is much quieter than our old one,
>       Jen in accounting says it will look very nice with a geranium or
>       two on top."
>     * Help yourself by trying to describe your problem in as much
>       detail as you can. You don't need to be an expert, that's why
>       your posting here right? But, don't say "The compiler doesn't
>       work.", explain what part doesn't work, supply all the error
>       messages and say what you have done so far to try and fix your
>       problem.
>     * Be respectful (sometimes even to me), and don't make your posts
>       sound like you are Mr. Angry of Bolton, or that your problem is
>       making you so mad that you might kill your mother. You can of
>       course say things like "Please help me Obewan, you're my only
>       hope," or sign off with Om Shanti Om and start a huge dance
>       routine. A fairly detailed post with a clear question will
>       usually be answered. Angry posts will probably be answered too,
>       but perhaps not in the way you wished for. Complaints are fine,
>       but try to complain respectfully and apologize after you have
>       punched someone in the mouth. The only exception to these rules
>       is if in fact you ARE Mr. Angry of Bolton or you have been
>       reincarnated recently.
>     * Don't email people off list unless invited to or you know them
>       and feel that they don't hate you too much, or you have 6
>       fingers on your right hand and are offering them money. The list
>       is the place to ask for help and if people have time they will
>       try to help.
>     * Please don't use the list to blatantly plug you own products. If
>       you reply to a post, make sure that you are giving them some
>       advice that is relevant. There are no rules about mentioning
>       products other than you can't just reply with 20 paragraphs
>       about the feature set of your product. If you really think that
>       your product will help, then say so in a few lines and invite a
>       personal communication. Also, if you are going to offer your
>       /paid for product/ as a solution, then make sure it is a
>       technically sound answer, as some people on the list - and I am
>       not saying who but they are very handsome and very clever and
>       usually called Jim - will probably take you to task about it
>       publically. Other than this, feel free to announce your (jBASE
>       related) products on this list, but please put something in
>       subject line that indicates your post is about a commercial
>       product, such as [COMMERCIAL] or [HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE].
>     * Job offers/Job advertisements. Given a few recent posts, we now
>       *REQUIRE* that people making offers of jobs and opportunities
>       should identify themselves rather than just try to harvest
>       CVs/Resumes. So, please provide public contact information if
>       advertising jobs or opportunities or we will just have to remove
>       your post and yourself from the list and /<spit>/ in your
>       general direction.
>     * Language barriers etc. Do your best to try and post in good
>       English but don't be afraid to post because you don't think your
>       English is good enough. Usually someone will work out what you
>       mean. Of course, I am talking to the Americans here. Similarly I
>       must ask the Indian's on the list to go easy on the Americans as
>       English isn't their first language. In other words, try to
>       be somewhat culturally sensitive and make allowances for
>       languages and ways of expression.
>
> So, in short:
>
>     * Explain yourself properly
>     * Start the subject of questions about T24 with the word *T24:*
>       (include the :)
>     * Be respectful
>
>  
>
>
> >

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