If I understand you correctly, you refer to something similar to what the
J2EEDeployer is currently and what the "ApplicationDeployer" (discussed on
this list for a while now without actually coming to a decision, mostly
because of different opinions about the related classloading issue) should
be in the future ... 

A generic (re-)deployment service that other deployers (such as the
Tomcat-war deployer, the EJB jar deployer, etc.) register at and to which
the actual (re-)deployment tasks are delegated after some preprocessing
(downloading remote jars, resolving dependencies, setting up classloaders,
...). 

I sent some code to demonstrate how such a thing could be combined with a
radically different classloading model (non-hierarchical, dynamic,
beam-search-driven) to Marc and Rickard a while ago. 

Since then, there has been unfortunately death silence and I do not know
whether we have reached some consensus there ... Maybe we should just start
coding?

Grüße aus Karlsruhe ;-)
Dr. Christoph G. Jung

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Von: Stefan Siprell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Februar 2001 14:01
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Betreff: [jBoss-Dev] Container for Generic Components


 Hi,
 I admit, that I'm absolute newbie, but after talking with all the local
tech-heads, I was advised to post this question on this maillist. Currently
my company is using the bea weblogic application server, but we have
developed the need, to have a special kind of container, to host a kind of
pluggable adapters.  Instead of building such a container from scrap, I
would like create a generic container, which:
 -deploys Components in the J2EE-usual way
 -creates an enviroment for the running Components
 -creates an administration interface for the Enviroment and its components
 
 The Enviroment itself should not be implemented in the
"Container-Framework". Yet there should be a set of Abstract Classes, that
allow an Enviroment to be plugged into the Container as desired. The
"Enviroment-Plugin" then processes the deployment XML-documents on a rel.
high level of logic (all the lowlevel stuff should  be managed by the
"Container-Framework"). 
 The administration interface could be implemented in a similar way.
 Such a configurable Container System could replace the current core
EJB-Container, and allow JBoss to host just about any kind of Component out
there (even the ones to come).Further I would think a EJB-Interface could be
designed to allow the hosting of several containers on one system (which
even would not have to be a JBoss Application Server). 
 Being able to use well working Core Elements of the JBoss-Project as
peripherial Elements on current professional systems, would allow new and
more conservative developers to "snoop in" JBoss, with out the risk of a
complete failure, and probably convince them to use more of the projects, or
even completly swapping the core in favour of you -us?- .
 
 My questions:
 -would it be reasonable to modify the current container?
 -is such a modificication desired by the community?
 
 
 Thanx a lot for your open ear (-or eyes ;^)). 
 I'm looking forward to your feedback.
 
 
Stefan Siprell
Software-Development

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