They make the initial checkout from CVS extremely slow as it download over 10MB of binaries from the "newsite" module alone. I propose that CVS should generally only include source files. We should recognize that we provide binaries as a convenience for visitors to be able to grab a copy, try it, be amazed, and join the community without any hassles. Binaries should be available from the site for download and ideally would be created automatically using a cron task or similar. But they should not be in CVS. If we need to be able to track historical versions of our binaries then, I suggest that we use CVS to it's fullest by tagging all the files that go into particular releases. We can then rebuild by checking out tagged files. If that doesn't work - perhaps because of dependencies on third-party projects - the we can use a separate CVS module for historical binary distributions. I doubt that anyone would want to sync with this module but, if you wanted a copy of EJBoss v0.5 for your very own EJB Hall of Fame, you'd know where to look... ;-) Of course there may be a perfectly good reason why binaries are needed and I'm sure that someone would no doubt point it out once they read this... Cheers!, Micheal --------------------------------------------------------- "Java isn't platform independent; it is a platform. Like Windows, it is a proprietary commercial platform. " - Bjarne Stroustrup _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development