On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, marc fleury wrote:
> to clear fuck-ups... yet if you screw up it doesn't hide the mistake, your
> application won't work.

yes... but I want to know exactly *WHY* it doesn't work :)

> |I'd much rather see the lookup fail than have the server hide my fuck ups.
> |Because that very clearly indicates something's wrong in the
> |configuration.
>
> and by doing so you prevent those that didn't fuck up from having a
> convenient feature. Design by exception.

hey, I just like my errors pointed out to me in a clear and unambiguous
matter. It's because I make lots of them and have rarely fun time trying
to find them... :P


> |The proposed implementation requires me to go clean up the jbossmq.xml
> |unless I like to have the naming space cluttered with stuff that wasn't
> |supposed to go there. It also allows the application to silently fail, as
> |Peter pointed out.
>
> Please read my mails, point 7.

you make too many, and they're repetitive and become boring :)


> Also, I don't see the "silently" point, if you don't have the right name you
> get 2 things from us
> 1- A "Creating topic"
> 2- An exception in your application

I mean, where I create a MDB and lookup 'bob' which isnt right
or configured and the server then creates it, and then have a client
that *correctly* looks up 'Bob' which was probably configured by some guy
three years ago. Everyone's happy, except I'm tearing
my hair out wondering why the fuck my messages arent getting through.

See it?

half my components talk to 'bob', the other half talks to 'Bob' and
everyone refuses to talk to the other party.

As long as its painfully obvious that the server is trying to be smart
even in cases where it shouldnt, where it was my fault, its ok by me. And
if it does destroy the topic so that I don't end up with bob, Bob, BoB and
BOB in my config, then I can live with it.

-- Juha



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