you guys are bitching for the past 2 days on the stuff that is done in that source the URL bla bla and the URL poopoo.
SUN's work is done, they have made Java an amazing success, it is time they showed some balls and let the baby go, it is beyond them has been for awhile. If we think as "OPen Monopoly" for the webOS infrastructure then having Java "Open" would be today such a "DONE" statement. 2years ago, I don't think it was wise, today it is another story. The hidden variable here is how well the Open Source community (at large including IBM/SUN/us) can stir java by commitee, it's a tough one and while I was all Open open 4 years ago (even sent a mail to mcnealy while I was working there and he answered (he always answers)), 2 years ago I was all against, mostly because I believed the enterprise API needed the strong leadership which sun so succesfully provided by funding some of the brightest people. Today... it is about mass-adoption, they still don't get it, it is about MAAAAAAASSSS ADOPTION!!!!! and SUN has never been a "mass market" company, they don't understand it, at all, never did, never will, they think 1- "everyone hates microsoft" 2- the only real customer is "schwab" and that is going to be their downfall. I am now gone from SUN for 3 years and off their heroin, I know Microsoft does kick-ass products and software, and I know that a solution in the mass needs to include MS as well. That is the strenght of java the agnosticity of OS as well as the strenght of .net. .net think about it, is probably going to be an eye opener, a sphere where everyone plays with little capacity for a lock-down, J2EE is going to be an awesome provider of webservice methinks, even us with our limited resources (2 people with rw on .net) are almost done. Everyone is going to fight each other and open source will win by default, it is the only place people will place the technology thinking they can own the development and what not. This is where entities like ours need to prove new models, that of professional open source, not "sugar-daddy" opensource (IBM with Apache) not "3rd-party-leeches open source" (RedHat with Linux), these models are not the future, just little credibility in the long run. We need new faces to run these puppies and we will provide these faces? do I look ok on camera? not really but will have to :) back to code, turning off the dream machine /rambling marcf |-----Original Message----- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of |Rickard Oberg |Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:11 PM |To: marc fleury |Cc: Andreas Schaefer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] sun.misc.URLClassPath | | |marc fleury wrote: | |> since when is SUN an Open Source company? |> |> If only it was Java would move forward so much faster... | | |Dude, the entire source code for Java has always been available. Just |download from sun.com. | |It's not *that* bad really ;-) | |/Rickard | |-- |Rickard �berg | | | |_______________________________________________ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
