Good - that is the approach that made the most sense to me. I think JXTA has
promise as a complement to JMX/MBeans. It provides a better communication
model than the notify mechanism in JMX, IMO. It may also be worth a look
down the road as a vehicle for managing cluster nodes (?)

Anyways, I am working on the plumbing stuff now (stream handling, thread
pooling, etc). Should be to the MBean/JXTA stuff shortly. This job thing is
just getting the way.

#mike

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Betteridge
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Multiple Instance - continued


I think that Mark mentioned that JXTA might be appropriate for this and
I'd like to second it.

If clusters of jboss are distributed all over the place - not just on
dedicated server boxes - then a loosely coupled protocol/service
framework would be ideal.

Setting up known 'rendezvous' points will help to discover and use a
robust port service.

I hope to start adding jxta bits to jboss in about six months time, but
for the moment I'm totally swamped.


Jason Dillon wrote:
>
> I am glad someone is looking into this.  I wish I had more time to review
what
> is going on here & add input, but I am loaded with tasks at the moment.
From
> my brief overviews of your emails, look like you are on the case.
>
> --jason
>
> Quoting Mike Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > You guys probably have more to worry about right now, with RC1 and all,
> > but:
> >
> > A while back there was a thread regarding the whole 'multiple instance
> > detection' thing - where the problem of managing multiple listeners
vying
> > for the same port was discussed (JNDI, RMI, etc).
> >
> > Was there any resolution or direction? This is of interest to me as we
do
> > often have multiple JBosses running on a single box (to make it more
> > challenging - we share a box with another group that has pure RMI apps
> > running on it..).
> >
> > One of the options was a 'port manager' that would (if I understand)
> > forward
> > traffic (like a proxy) to the correct port for the requested service.
> > 1) To do this, I imagine the 'port mgr' would have to be able to sniff
the
> > incoming bytestream and determine the requested service by interrogating
> > the
> > content. This imposes the restriction that only one instance of a
service
> > (service being wire protocol - JNDI, HTTP, RMI, etc) can be routed,
since
> > there probably would be no unambiguous way to differentiate between two
> > HTTP
> > streams (for instance).
> > 2) The port mgr (MBean?) would somehow need to be aware of the 'real'
ports
> > being used within the JBoss process space by the managed services. Would
> > the
> > MBean Notification mechanism suffice? Where each MBean that owns a
> > "managed"
> > port would send a notification with the port/s onwhich it it is
listening.
> > Or, as (I think) Marc suggested, a P2P solution like JXTA (which may be
a
> > better solution than JMX Notifications?). Or a config file (less than
> > optimal, IMO).
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > I would definitely be interested in contributing on this. Or maybe no
one
> > cares about this one anymore.  :-)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
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