> Log4j is our logging infrastructure on the *server* side, yes. But the
> client side isn't *your* infrastructure but the user's infrastructure. What
> if the user wants to use another log4j version? etc. our client side code
> mustn't be so intrusive.

JBoss code is running on both sides.  We don't want to sacrafice logging on 
the client.  There is alot going on there, especialy now will client 
interceptors.

What is the big deal with the jar?  We ship with a default version of the 
log4j.properties which only spews warnings or errors (or we should do so, and 
it is quite easy).

And if they really want to disable all of if then they configure Log4j to use 
null loggers and appenders.

> You know what I mean?

We do not want to loose logging on the client side... and we do not want to 
have two seperate logging interfaces... and we deffinetly don't want to start 
putting System.out and printStackTrace() into that code.

Your previous email sounded like you wanted to remove Log4j on the client... 
and I think that would be a horrible idea.

Why do you want it out?  You must have had a reason to send the email.  Can 
you explain what your pain was and perhaps we can find a better solution to 
it (other than ditching log4j on the client).

?

--jason


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