yes, commit b is a requirement, and Instantce Per Transaction is available in 2.4.6.  
THe interceptors needed are

EntityMultiInstanceInterceptor
EntityMultiInstanceSynchronizationInterceptor
and MethodOnlyEJBLock.

Take a look at standardjboss.xml in 3.0 and you'll be able to apply it.

Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James
> Cook
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Please support Option B (response to Jim Cook)
> 
> 
> I am deployed on jBoss 2.4.6, and I changed to MethodOnlyEJBLock 
> to prevent some spurious ApplicationDeadlockExceptions that 
> occur. Is it a requirement on the 2.4 version of the server to 
> use commit option B as well?
> 
> jim
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
> > Behalf Of Bill Burke
> > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:30 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Please support Option B (response to 
> > Jim Cook)
> > 
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > Do not use MethodOnlyEJBLock on its own.  In JBoss 3.0.1 and 
> > higher there is an additional container configuration you can 
> > use that creates an Instance per transaction for each entity 
> > bean.  The side-effects, you must use Commit-option 'B' and 
> > you do not get serialized access to your entity beans. 
> > (analogy is Read-committed behaviour instead of serialized).
> > 
> > i.e.
> > 
> > <jboss>
> >    <enterprise-beans>      
> >       <entity>
> >          <ejb-name>MyCMP2Bean</ejb-name>
> >          <jndi-name>MyCMP2</jndi-name>
> >          <configuration-name>Instance Per Transaction CMP 
> > 2.x EntityBean</configuration-name>
> >       </entity>
> >       <entity>
> >          <ejb-name>MyBMPBean</ejb-name>
> >          <jndi-name>MyBMP</jndi-name>
> >          <configuration-name>Instance Per Transaction BMP 
> > EntityBean</configuration-name>
> >       </entity>
> > 
> >     </enterprise-beans>
> > </jboss>
> > 
> > 
> > Also, in 3.0, for the default pessimistic locking, you can 
> > now define methods as read-only(thanks to Peter Murray).  
> > Meaning, invoking on read-only methods will not lock the 
> > entity bean into the transaction.  To use this:
> > 
> > <jboss>
> >     <enterprise-beans>
> >        <entity>
> >            <ejb-name>nextgen.EnterpriseEntity</ejb-name>
> >            <jndi-name>nextgen.EnterpriseEntity</jndi-name>
> >            <method-attributes>
> >                <method>
> >                    <method-name>get*</method-name>
> >                    <read-only>true</read-only>
> >                </method>
> >                <method>
> >                    <method-name>anotherReadOnlyMethod</method-name>
> >                    <read-only>true</read-only>
> >                </method>
> >            </method-attributes>
> >        </entity>
> >     </enterprise-beans>
> > </jboss>
> > 
> > I have written a document on this stuff in the soon-to-be 
> > published 3.0 for-pay documentation.  Email me if you have 
> > any further questions.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > > But back to EB locking, jBoss supports MethodOnlyEJBLock as a
> > > configuration option. I'm not absolutely sure, but isn't that the 
> > > same thing as the opptomistic locking that WL and other 
> > servers support?
> > > 
> > > jim
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
> > > > Behalf Of Tom M. Yeh
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:04 AM
> > > > To: Jboss-Development
> > > > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Please support Option B
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So, why Option B?
> > > > 
> > > > Let us assume you have two beans, A and B. One transaction
> > > > reads A and then B, while the other transaction reads B then 
> > > > A. If option A is used, a dead lock occurs even though both 
> > > > transactions won't modify A or B (this is OK if we access 
> > > > database directly without using EJB).
> > > > 
> > > > So some says let us alter EJB spec a bit by allowing multiple
> > > > bean instances (i.e., each transaction has an independent 
> > > > instance) for option A. But, if one transaction modifies A, 
> > > > how shall the other transactions know and react? Some says 
> > > > let developer specify which methods are read-only. If we do 
> > > > it correctly, we just redo what the database already do 
> > > > (read/update/exclusive locking, isolation level...). And, how 
> > > > about clustering?
> > > > 
> > > > Some suggests to use stored procedure to trigger and
> > > > invalidate corresponding instances. Beside the question of 
> > > > when to invalidate, it is hard to know what instances are 
> > > > affected by simply looking at a database table -- you need 
> > > > metainfo about how objects are mapped to tables and try to 
> > > > map tables back to objects. Even you could, how about 
> > > > clustering? One VM notifies another?
> > > > 
> > > > If we have Option B, then we could let database do what they
> > > > are good at. We just make sure the cached instances is 
> > > > consistent with records in database. How? Optimistic lock for 
> > > > one -- versioning or timestamp is good enough. It can be done 
> > > > easily when ejbLoad is called -- which is demanded for option 
> > > > B. However, in the current implementation, all instances are 
> > > > trashed after a transaction complete, no matter option B or 
> > > > C. Thus, optimistic lock is useless and we have to reload 
> > > > instances when a new transaction starts.
> > > > 
> > > > After all, loading and comparing a timestamp is much cheaper
> > > > than loading the whole instance, because an instance usually 
> > > > has multiple relations to other instances.
> > > > 
> > > > > Commit option A and when the row changes in the 
> > database a stored 
> > > > > procedure notifies the server that the data in cache is no
> > > > longer valid.
> > > > >
> > > > > -dain
> > > > >
> > > > > Ignacio Coloma wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> What is that "notifications" on A scheme marc is talking about?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dan Christopherson wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> OK, so it's more a matter of allowing multiple bean
> > > > instances. Once
> > > > >>> that's there, B or C doesn't really matter - the 
> > extra overhead
> > > > >>> implied by C is noise compared to the database read 
> > > > (which you need
> > > > >>> either way).
> > > > >>> Of course, anybody that can use option A should.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -danch
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Bill Burke wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Yes, Tom, be more specific.  I know you're smarter than that.
> > > > >>>> You're probably talking about the "Instance per Transaction" 
> > > > >>>> locking scheme.  This works fine with commit-option 'B'. 
> > > >  Yes, it
> > > > >>>> is not totally optimized, but is
> > > > >>>> does pool dead instances.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Bill
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > >>>>> Dan
> > > > >>>>> Christopherson
> > > > >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:08 AM
> > > > >>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Please support Option B
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Whahuh? JBoss doesn't support option B?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Tom M. Yeh wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Dear All,
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> According to the CSIRO report
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>> (http://www.cmis.csiro.au/adsat/jboss.htm), JBoss is doing 
> > > > >>>>> well
> > > > >>>>> with Stateless session beans. It implies reflection, by 
> > > > comparing
> > > > >>>>> to static compiled codes, doesn't affect the 
> > performance much,
> > > > >>>>> while it has great architectural advantages such as 
> > pluggable 
> > > > >>>>> interceptors.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> However, entity beans is not the case. One of the reason, I
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>> think, is this report uses Option B, which JBoss
> > > > doesn't support
> > > > >>>>> (and uses Option C instead). In other words, all beans
> > > > are trashed
> > > > >>>>> after a transaction is completed. It then 
> > introduces a lot of
> > > > >>>>> overhead since every transaction has to reload all 
> > > > beans involved
> > > > >>>>> from database (and you know accessing database kills the
> > > > >>>>> performance).
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> After examining the codes and a few talks with 
> > Bill, I don't
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>> think I am capable to modify the codes to support Option B. 
> > > > >>>>> Any
> > > > >>>>> volunteer is willing to do that?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
> > > > >>>>>> Tom
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
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