Check out also the Oracle doc for the version you use.
There are some improvements in 9i.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bartmann [mailto:michael.bartmann@;lisytec.de]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 13:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Oracle, table locks and CMP2 incompatibility


Hmmm.. if I understand this paper right,
it would mean that the child table is only
locked if:

a) one deletes records of the parent table
or
b) if one changes the pk value in the parent table.

which would not not be as bad as I thought when reading
other sources, which imply that a simple update on
the parent table would suffice to lock the associated
child rows.

Regards,
Michael Bartmann


Catalin Teodorescu wrote:
> Check this link.
> 
> 
>http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:1513219::NO::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID,F4950_P8_CRITERIA:292016138754,%7Bprimary%7D%20and%20%7Bkey%7D%20and%20%7Bupdate%7D%20and%20%7Btable%7D%20and%20%7Block%7D
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Bartmann [mailto:michael.bartmann@;lisytec.de]
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [JBoss-dev] Oracle, table locks and CMP2 incompatibility
> 
> 
> Hallo db gurus,
> 
> we have for some time experienced nasty timeouts on oracle
> without jboss deadlock detection (or oracle deadlock detection)
> kicking in. We might have found the solution today, allthough
> this is not verified, perhaps only time will show.
> (...or some db guru will tell me that my following explanation is
> severly misguided.)
> 
> The EJB locking is based on entity locks. If you have an underlying
> database which does locking too, it has to use row level locking,
> (as opposed to table level locking) or else jboss detect deadlocks
> on the database, as the check which detects deadlocks is based on a
> graph representing locks on entity (row) level.
> 
> But there are circumstances, under which oracle does not use row
> level locking even if with row level locking configured to "always".
> 
> This happens when a table TableA has a dependent table TableB in a
> 1:n relationship (i.e. TableB has a foreign key pointing to TableA.)
> If a row of TableA gets updated, oracle tries to lock all entries in
> TableB with matching foreign key.
> 
> Here comes the vital point: If there is no index on the foreign key
> columns of TableB, oracle does a shared lock on _table_ level. This
> is probably because otherwise oracle would need to do a full table
> scan on the fly to find the matching rows in TableB.
> 
> So if you configure jboss to generate the foreign key constraints
> you are walking on thin ice; you have to generate indices on the
> foreign key columns by hand, or else this effect might hount you.
> 
> Solution:
> 1) [workaround] disable foreign key (or their generation), and let
>     CMP2 itself take care of the constraints
> or
> 2) implement generation of foreign key indices in jboss. (I'm not fully
>     convinced that this would suffice; jboss deadlock detection would
>     have to lock the same entities and avoid race conditions).
> 
> Does this sound reasonable to you?
> 
> Regards,
> Michael Bartmann
> 
> 
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