If anything has a portable ICMP layer I would expect it in the Ethereal
protocol analyzer : http://www.ethereal.com/
I'm interested in getting this an other network topology tools working
in JBoss to better support cluster configuration issues so I'll help get
something going here.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Bartmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: [JBoss-dev] jboss and icmp sockets (any use?)


> Hi socket programmers,
> 
> While writing mbeans to interface with legacy tcp/ip hosts,
> I often thought it would be really usefull to be able to "ping" them.
> 
> [[
> As you surely know "ping" is icmp based, and jdks up to 1.4 don't
> support icmp sockets. Even if you write some jni code you are urged
> to run the whole jvm as root if running under unix, which you might
> not prefer to do; these security nightmares are probably the main
> reason for sun not to include icmp in the standard.
> (OTOH: there exists a jni icmp implementation for winsocks.)
> 
> Now you could work around this by exec()-ing the ping utility of your
> favourite os. This is:
> 1) not so cheap (ressource wise, at least an exec() per ping)
> 2) quite slow (most ping utilities can only ping one host at a time
>     and only once per second)
> 3) not so portable, you'll have to setup arguments and parse results
>     in a way depending on your "ping" variant.
> ]]
> 
> I came up with this solution: I wrote a very small C programm which
> acts as a gateway between a special udp socket and an icmp raw socket.
> So the java thread sends udp packets to that port, they get resend as
> icmp packets, the remote side responds, the response is translated back to
> udp and the java thread can read them.
> 
> This is quite cheep and the C programm is very lightweight, but it is
> sort of system specific anyway (at the moment I only have a linux version,
> which should work under other unices - but probably not under winsocks).
> 
> At least the java side is of course the same for every platform; this might
> be the only thing to go into the jboss distribution, so we don't pollute
> the build system with C.
> 
> All this is not exactly jboss-specific, but I wondered if other jboss
> services could use icmp access?
> 
> Is there a more simple icmp solution around, which works at least under win2k
> _and_ linux?
> 
> (I heard there is something planned for jdk 1.5; I'd like to see how sun works
> around the "root-only" problem under unix...)
> 
> Regards,
> Michael



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